RC India

Hey im planning to build my first quadcopter. Now before i order this parts i would ask you if this configuration is good. To the weight i also want to add my Samsung Camcorder (ca. 200 grams) or my Nikon DSLR (ca. 900 grams). All parts are from Hobbyking website.

Frame: Hobbyking X650F Glass Fiber (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=41765)
Motor: Turnigy Park480 850kV (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=44985)
ESCs: Hobbyking 30A BlueSeries (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=37251)
Flight Controller: Hobbyking KK2.1.5 Board (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=56201)
Props: 12x4.5 SlowFly (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=63701)
Batterie: ZIPPY Flightmax 8000 mAh, 3S (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=38300)

Would be nice to hear your opinions :)

Here is a weight breakdown:
frame:598 g
motors: 80x4= 320g
ESCs: 28x4 = 112g
FCB: 21 g
Misc cables, connectors and props: 100 grams
LiPo: 644g
Thus, the AUW = 1795 grams
12 inch props are a bit much for these motors as well as for the frame. Assuming you choose a more appropriate 11x4.5 prop, the total thrust will be 1140x 4 = 4560 grams. Since ideally you should have twice as much thrust as the weight of your quad, your ideal maximum all up weight would be 4560/2 = 2280 grams. This would allow a maximum payload of 2280-1795 = 485 grams while still leaving enough power to hover around half throttle and manoeuvre. Since is your first quadcopter, I think the kk 2.1 is a good choice as it is easy to set up and work with. I think you will want to upgrade once you are used to it though since it is quite limited in functionality. May I know which radio you are using? 8000 mAh is a big battery. I don't know whether it would fit.
Since this is your first quad, I would suggest you go for a 'multipurpose' sort of frame. Something around the 450 size that is easy to build but can still carry a GoPro or an ActionCam. Starting off with an aerial photography or heavy lift quad is not that easy. Apparently, SimonK flashed ESCs improve multirotor performance so it might help if you could lay your hands on those.

Why don't you get a cx10 first and then get the s500 kit from adopters.com

@nitesh I'm guessing you mean quadkopters.com. If you take a look at the OP's location, it's outside India. Also, many people don't like RTF since there is no challenge involved. I'm like that.
@dwiedenau I forgot to mention, make sure buy to spare props. They are the first part to break in a crash (which can be frequent while setting up).

hello dwiedenau welcome to forum..

in my opinion if you plan to use nikon DSLR than go for carbon fiber frame coz. it is more rigid and has high strength as compare to glass fiber. ( carbon fiber is almost unbreakable )..
and also don't use kk board for areal Videography and photography. use more stable and trusted platforms like naza , apm etc...
 
good luck..

@rcrcnitesh i already have a Cheerson CX 10 and i had lots of fun with that.
@SK1701 i want to mount my camcorder there because i have it here and dont want to buy a gopro because im a student and i dont have so much money. Otherwise i completely hate this wideangle lenses. So which battery you would you recommend for me? i would like to have flight time above 15 min maybe.
@gunnu Yes sure i also dont want to mount the camcorder or the DSLR at my first flights. After a time i can start with my camcorder and then i will see. But Carbon Fiber is more expensive isnt it?

i bought cf frame from ebay.com 400mm for around 59$... not much difference only 18$.
( nice frame and good quality i crash my quad in 3 floor building and fall on ground from 3rd floor and it survives not even any mark on frame only one prop broke )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151510268828?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/151510268828?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

The battery is chosen according to how much payload capacity you have to spare, as well as the current draw of your motors. You can use this free tool to get some rough estimates of current draw, payload and flight time: http://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php (http://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php)
15 mins is a bit long, I get around 7 minutes with a 3500 mAh battery. To get longer flight times, you generally need to use lower kv motors with bigger props. I would suggest a 4000-5000 mAh battery though you still won't be able to lift the DSLR. Make sure that the battery can handle the discharge. Since each of your motors draws around 20A, your battery should be capable of at least 80, with a safety margin making it 100 Amps. Thus, a 4000 mAh battery should be at least 25C and a 5000 mAh battery 20C. 8000 mAh may also work, I'm not sure though.

my quad weight around 1.3kg including camera and batteries 4400mAh 20C (two 2200mah batteries in parallel) and gives me around 5 mint flight time...(till first warning) use 920KV motors with 30A esc..

@gunnu Thank you i think i would order that frame
@SK1701 its not so important for me to mount a dslr there only to mount a camera with a good quality (not like this action cams) and make a few nice videos.

Otherwise, what do you think guys i should mount a camcorder at my quadcopter and should i order sth like this: http://f4k3url/XNsS4p (http://f4k3url/XNsS4p) to eliminate the vibrations?

@dwiedenau i use sony camcorder with my quad..  i mount it with zip ties. ;D ;D
works great..

@gunnu yeah i also want to mount this with zip ties :D but when i mount that on this anti vibration thing with zipt ties i get a smoother picture or?

my cam has optical image stabilization so it works great..

So i made the calculation at eCalc and it says with the 8A Battery and no cam attached i would get a flight time of 13,3 minutes

@gunnu my cam has a optical image stabilization too.. can you send me a link to a video which you have recorded from your cam mounted at your drone

ya sure, let me upload video on youtube than ill post you link...

I meant cx10 not 20 and I am using tapatalk so the location ain't visible.

yeah i know, you meant this nano quadcopter