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RC Models => Multirotors => Topic started by: SideWinder on May 18, 2014, 08:23:40 PM



Title: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on May 18, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
Had been contemplating of making a mini foldable FPV H-quad, which is easier to carry. Since I wanted them to be of specific size and spec, designed a frame myself altho this was the first time I used CAD and sent it to Quadkopters who promptly pointed out some goof ups which were corrected duly and got it cut in 2 days and delivered in 4. Great service from them as usual!

I salvaged the electronics from my ZMR quad, so obtaining items werent a big deal this time.

Specs:
M to M: 280mm
Motors :RCX 1804 2400kv
Esc: 10amp Simon K flashed
FC: Trusted KK 2.0
Battery: 1500/2200mah 2S and 1000/1300/2200mah 3S lipo, all of them have a discharge rate of minimum 40amps
FPV: 5.8ghz 200 mW tx/rx with 420Tvl camera and DIY CL and Helical antenna powered separately most probably.
Got some booms cut to approx 10*10 mm width as per required length, and drilled necessary holes.

(http://i.imgur.com/wPsWq4t.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vtjXtOh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dvwkwKI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VG5pCKp.jpg)



Have attached the design, you may do whatever you want with it  ;D


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on May 18, 2014, 08:29:50 PM
Attached the camera and top plate, everything fits perfectly. Motors mounted on there plates. Removed electronics as it is from older frame(saves the hassle of re-soldering them), will probably them tomorrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/a5FU7eI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/x1Up9rk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FYFEl2w.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ljWfAhl.jpg)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: satyagupta on May 18, 2014, 09:23:58 PM
Good job :thumbsup:

Really happy to see cut outs getting into shape of a frame.


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: eyesonsky on May 19, 2014, 02:08:25 AM
Yes nice design, welcome to your mini QuadH  {:)}


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Rc Maker on May 19, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Waiting for the video  (:|~ (:|~ {:)}


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Rahulvyas on May 19, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
excellent build so far :) good luck


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Swapnil on May 19, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
Wow! Is that 1.5mm G10? Could you PM me the total cost please?

Where did you get those standoffs (in the 2nd pic from top)? Are they nylon?

Looking forward to the maiden video! Good Luck!  :thumbsup: 


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: chintal on May 19, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
Great build


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on May 19, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
Electronics have been fit, motors been mounted and everything looks good. I will probably need to use 2 blade 5" props to fold the arms properly. Tried it with 2S lipo, not enough thrust because of increased AUW so 3S would be the only option. Just did a small test flight and it would be fine with some PID tuning.

Its 45 Degree Celsius out here, and Im afraid the motors will get too hot with 3S(they are already getting warm enough), so will possibly complete a full test flight on early morning on weekend perhaps. Would also be testing DIY 5.8Ghz Helical with Cloverleaf.

(http://i.imgur.com/tIJXFyQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BrAbxEd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Po30qAE.jpg)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Swapnil on May 19, 2014, 03:11:43 PM

Its 45 Degree Celsius out here, and Im afraid the motors will get too hot with 3S...


Same here! We had to place ice one the NAZA M V2 FC box while doing the advanced calibration!  ;D  >:D
Before that it just kept giving 'temperature too high' warning!


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on May 19, 2014, 03:24:23 PM
Swapnil, yes its 1.5mm G10, and I can tell you that its stiffer than my expectations.
And those are nylon tapped and threaded spacers you can find them at quadkopters.com or HK(under accessories in multirotor category) and many other places I guess.

Global Warming I guess ;D , but its really a bummer didnt anticipate temperature could be a major factor affecting electronics.

http://www.quadkopters.com/product/nylon-space-m315/ (http://www.quadkopters.com/product/nylon-space-m315/)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on June 22, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlZSHBWo3iE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlZSHBWo3iE#ws)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: eyesonsky on June 22, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
Nice to see this miniH in the air, have fun with ;)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: ashimda on June 22, 2014, 02:01:43 PM
Excellent. Nice LOS flying, those things get tiny quick.


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Rooster on June 22, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
Awesome Flight... Great Build


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: RCNeil21 on June 22, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Simple but robust build great going man :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on June 24, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
Initially during the flight, nicked the tree in front and quad flipped. And now I had a flat Cloverleaf antenna :D , otherwise I would have got an onboard view too.
Yes these things get too small far out, ideal for FPV tho and easier to carry.

To do list:
Add an auto pilot,
Add an HD cam,
probably build a complete CF frame/arms.


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: Adityaamg on June 26, 2014, 03:08:39 AM
Excellent build!


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: veloci on June 26, 2014, 12:59:18 PM
Sidewinder, nice build!

Why are the motors 'not' starting at the same time? Looks like ESCs need to be calibrated.


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on June 26, 2014, 01:23:21 PM
Its not the esc's, its the ACC calibration. I keep changing the FC(mounted on foam), but dont calibrate them each time, which leads to small error in acc orientation.
Some people find it disturbing but Im used to it. Either you takeoff quickly or let all motors start and then takeoff :)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: veloci on June 26, 2014, 01:35:13 PM
haha...interesting!
After all calibration just takes 10 seconds on the KK2 you have there! :)


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: SideWinder on June 26, 2014, 02:24:48 PM
After calibration, need to change self level settings, then minimum throttle, PI settings if necessary, then a final receiver test. Its cubersome if you keep changing boards. Right now, just place the FC, and fly away and its because of KK2, really forgiving. I cant think about doing the same thing on a multiwii or APM.


Title: Re: Mini Foldable H-Quad build
Post by: veloci on June 26, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
  :thumbsup: