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Title: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on December 13, 2014, 06:22:07 PM
Hello all,

i was bitten by the design bug again. i decided to make a Mini Quad (280mm MtM). I really liked BlueSkyRC's Wasp 280 deisgn, i decided to design the quad on the same lines and curves.

i dont intend to complete this quad, just planning to complete the frame and assemble it.

http://blueskyrc.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=88 (http://blueskyrc.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=88)

2.5mm HDF will be used

comments and suggestions welcome :)
regards


Title: Re: Scratch Build(Design) : 280 Quad
Post by: santhosh-r on December 13, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
 :salute: good work done  :bow:   {:)}


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 12, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
Thank You. :)

i have made a few changes:

1. changed motor mount size to fit standard 28mm motors. (though i can still switch to 16mm by simply swapping the booms.
2. added better body reinforcements to keep the body strong and stiff.

more to come

regards
Yashodhan Pasari


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: VC on January 12, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
 :thumbsup:

Why don't you post a picture of the finished product (fully assembled)?


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: aman1256 on January 12, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Yup I would love to see that Also.
Regards,
Aman.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 15, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
Build:

(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/4048187380f7b696fe2ece2bba7d072cd7afac1b3e5ca49e5f7e012d2c9df074b9752793.jpg)

(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/1411437502b66d334b2d8e27ea08cd35327262d81b8b22cdc3856ad39e97e4e52ad5e78d.jpg)

(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/0688731794dd04dc931159b6ce81c3b2f541564ef9996e0b89e8f1ee2ab38d6ae41e5c38.jpg)

(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/010969554c247b51370ea6563e6517a968f1ae228e68df159eed98c13d2f827262a065a2.jpg)

(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/37549401522b8a928e13d723ed3479e686903c3a7d1beac6c1acf637981e23a0d9460ff5.jpg)

Finished :D
(http://img5013.photobox.co.uk/54516218417991bf94f4dd7ceb3b2f51cef90650628e75ce5ef573c42d13970e0fefca69.jpg)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: miginstruments on January 16, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
Very neat job. Really Nice.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: satyagupta on January 16, 2015, 11:45:06 AM
Where did you got the drawings from? i can get these CNC on glass/carbon fiber.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 16, 2015, 11:49:24 AM
I designed it myself. Start to finish... I can CNC as well.. However this was meant for wood... Glass fiber and carbon fibre don't need such reinforcements


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: satyagupta on January 16, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
Cool


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 16, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Re: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: arun.sreelakam on January 16, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
Awesome work man.. ;D


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 16, 2015, 09:53:18 PM
Thank you Arun Ji. :)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: VC on January 21, 2015, 05:55:52 PM
Great job Yash. You have an alternate profession as a jigsaw puzzle cutter waiting for you. Jokes apart, that is very neat.

What motor /prop / esc combo would be ideal for this craft? Also, what should be the ideal AUW of this model.

Thanks and Regards.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: VC on January 21, 2015, 05:57:40 PM
Sorry, my questions have been answered by the Wasp 280 mini site.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: VC on January 21, 2015, 07:44:57 PM
Just received my kit from Yashodhan. Superb quality! Just needs to be shielded from moisture with a good coat of paint and varnish.

Now I need 4 motors AND 4 ESC's AND a board AND a camera.........................


Thanks a ton Yashodhan! :hatsoff:


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 21, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
Haha, you never know I may already be a jigsaw puzzle maker. Jokes apart, even i make some mistakes and then end up getting parts re-cut.
Thank you for your compliments, Glad you liked the kit.

Please do note that my kit is designed for the standard 28mm motors(you may install smaller ones by redrilling the plates) , since 16mm/18mm motors aren't readily available here

Also please post a "Build Log/Review" of the same


Regards


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: aman1256 on January 21, 2015, 11:29:45 PM
That custom frame really looks good. :D
Regards,
Aman.:)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 22, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
Thanks aman. :) highly appreciate it.

Regards


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 22, 2015, 03:28:34 PM
i have plans to kit it for Rs.475/- inclusive of shipping and handling across India... anyone interested?


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: madaquif on January 23, 2015, 04:38:40 AM
how much would it cost for a CF frame in same design???


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on January 23, 2015, 07:58:22 AM
Hi, I am not cutting this in cf, because it would be overkill. I can cut on plywood for about Rs. 75 more


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: satyagupta on January 23, 2015, 09:45:09 AM
I can god GF/CF cutting. but since its designed by Yash if he is ready then i can do the cutting depending on the requirements.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 14, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
UPDATE!!!
I have started building(completing) the quad.
Bought from Vibrant Hobbies: ( Purchased items 1 & 2 on COD and 3. on prepayment) delivered in ONE working day.  :hatsoff:
1. DYS 1806-13 Motors
2. Emax - 12A ESC's
3. KK Mini Flight Controller.

Vishal Rao @ Kinetic Hobbies has supplied the following:
1. 5030 Props
2. 3s 1000 mah Lipos
3. Cables
4.

 A BIG SHOUTOUT to the fellows at Vibrant Hobbies for providing COD and also a system of loyalty points.
Have made some changes to the booms to accommodate the TINY motors

Photos:
(http://s22.postimg.org/sb1gdvig1/IMG_20150414_161524.jpg)

(http://s22.postimg.org/smiwqmyw1/IMG_20150414_162614.jpg)
Regards


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: Dharmik on April 15, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
Good work Yash. Ensure your motors are powerful enough to lift all electronics including FPV gear and recording camera.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: satyagupta on April 16, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
Looks DYS 1806 Whats the KV on those??



Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 16, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
2300 kv


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 16, 2015, 01:14:14 PM
UPDATE:
 
Painted it matte black, and started preliminary assembly.

pics:

(http://s14.postimg.org/qwgk782wh/IMG_20150416_084946.jpg)

(http://s14.postimg.org/ql45rkss1/IMG_20150416_084950.jpg)

(http://s14.postimg.org/r4473qdv5/IMG_20150416_084956.jpg)
 


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: ashimda on April 17, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Super build, looking forward to see the maiden video. These mini quads are prone to crashes, considering the way they are mostly flown. How do you think the frame will hold up.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 17, 2015, 05:09:49 PM
I had two successful flight tests. Then I overcorrected and crashed breaking two booms.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 21, 2015, 07:42:30 PM
Two flight videos:

https://youtu.be/mbiVUkeVSjg (https://youtu.be/mbiVUkeVSjg)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8B7S1fART5Q


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 21, 2015, 07:50:44 PM
Photos

(http://s28.postimg.org/lkuft4i71/IMG_20150421_182056.jpg)

(http://s28.postimg.org/pddy8uxp9/IMG_20150421_182101.jpg)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter : Scratch Build and Fly Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 21, 2015, 07:58:20 PM
Good flights today.. Really happy with the outcome


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: ashimda on April 21, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
Well done. {:)}


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 21, 2015, 09:56:06 PM
Thank you :D


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: akhilzid on April 21, 2015, 11:06:46 PM
nice build yashodhanp,

is that oscillating too much? i think the P and I need to reduced a little.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 22, 2015, 11:32:16 AM
Ya I recitified that a little bit. :D..


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 23, 2015, 07:55:23 AM
Another pic


(http://s21.postimg.org/tizsgm42v/IMG_20150421_WA0004.jpg)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 26, 2015, 01:54:01 PM
Anyone interested in PLYWOOD kits for the same @Rs. 475 + shipping


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 27, 2015, 09:59:30 AM
Bump?


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 27, 2015, 01:19:48 PM
Another Flight Video: ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCNqQOFJD6o# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCNqQOFJD6o#)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 28, 2015, 08:18:59 AM
The motors have been a constant source of grief... With bad bearings... Will have to replace them soon.


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: ashimda on April 28, 2015, 09:21:56 AM
I have been using the RCX motors on my mini quad for nearly a year, without any issues. I have broken an embarrassing number of props, destroyed a IRC 600mw tx, and even dunked it into a lake trying to do a flip. So far I have had to change only 1 motor, because the magnets became loose.
Try them as a cheap solution.

http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/poor-man%27s-blackout-mini-quad/msg183487/#msg183487 (http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/poor-man%27s-blackout-mini-quad/msg183487/#msg183487)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on April 28, 2015, 09:29:10 AM
Hmm nice.. I am out of funds as of now. Will buy those as soon as I have funds :D
Vibrant hobbies has been kind enough to raise the issue with HK lets see how HK responds  :)


Title: Re: Quadcpoter Design: Scratch Build Log: 280 Quad
Post by: yashodhanp on June 24, 2015, 08:28:47 PM
Update: HK has accepted one motor is faulty, and Vibrant  Hobbies has gone ahead and given me the refund for one motor :hatsoff:

I have changed the boom design slightly, by removing the sharp V on the booms because they were fragile. Replaced it with a flat bottom design.  :hatsoff:

The MDF has proven to be strong enough for this design as well.