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RC Models => Multirotors => Topic started by: rastsaurabh on June 25, 2015, 10:43:44 AM



Title: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 25, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
 Hello all,

After seeing Phantom fly in GPS hold i got into mood of making one myself. It took nearly 4-5 month to materialize.

Motors - Original DJI motors with spoilt winding. redid the winding with some logic and calculations to have a more efficient system considering i will not use 4S, no 10Inch Props, AUW not more than 800Grms. After 2-3 tries i got the satisfactory results ( i had done winding earlier as-well)

Frame - wanted to have DJI frame but it was coslty so went for scratch frame. a simple plus with wooden beeding and a small ply as platform. Kept the dimensions same as Phantom - 360mm. Did add some fiber glass at the motor mount for strength.

Flight controller - had not time to try HK or multiwii as it requires lot of tuning and debugging. So went for NAZA lite. Later updated to V2. there is a remarkable difference. Its a very stable and no hassle FC. I have no prior exp on a quad and the video is just 3-4 th flight.

Battery - 2200 mAh battery expect 7-8 min time. But yet to see final flight time.

Props - 9443 DJI props . Even they needed Balancing. Do balancing of props in any motor prop combo it helps and adds to motor effeciency.

RX - ASSAN with S bus capbility. lucky to have this as i found S bus feature later. It saves the clutter of wires.

TX - Futaba T7C

Camera - No camera.

Finally a big thanks to the people from RCI who helped me in this project.

Jaspreet Guitar - Who finally checked and verified quad and asked me to throttle up   :salute:
Gunnu Bhai - Who gave me the goldern tip to download driver for NAZA when it was not connecting to laptop & who provided props and Motor. ;D
Sundram - who cleared my winding doubts  :hatsoff:


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 25, 2015, 10:49:57 AM
some pics of Frame, dry fit and final.


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 25, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
Sbus & video

http://youtu.be/2O3UW497DmQ


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: ved on June 25, 2015, 11:14:05 AM
Nice


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: phanivyas on June 25, 2015, 11:17:14 AM
Nice build  {:)} . Ony my F330 frame with 8" props running 3S 2200 I got 8-10min flight time (weight with battery 960gms), I think you will get more flight time with that weight and 9" props.


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: manojswizera on June 25, 2015, 12:13:39 PM
Nice build  sir,
my scratch build frame was just flipping, yours is better.


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: sundaram on June 25, 2015, 02:44:12 PM
Thanks Saurabh.

that's one super stable quad. Nice scratch build.  {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: gunnu on June 25, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
thanx @rastsaurabh  and nyc quad very stable...

regards


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 26, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Excellent Saurabh!  {:)} {:)} {:)}

Now waiting for you to take it under the cane chair  :giggle:


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: ashok baijal on June 26, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
Nice. Why dont you put up atutorial on rewinding motors on the forum especially the calculation on guage of wire, number of turns to achieve a desired kv and power. Would be appreciated by many who have spoiled motors lying with them


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 26, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Hello Ashok,

The info is all there in the RCI Sea. Anyway I have used this thread as my reference all the time.

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-power/can-this-bldc-motor-be-repaired/msg71080/#msg71080

it explains ( Sundram sir) the types of winding and their relation to KV and Torque.

After trying a few winding its my belief that the motors we have are already tuned to the max potential in terms of power and KV. At the max you can play 10-20% only. ( star <--> delta)

Once i re-wounded a 1500Kv motor with multi strand copper wire to single thick wire and less turns for Higher KV.   >2000Kv i got good result but the motor used to get  too Hot even with burst throttle.
So try totally different winding for experimental purpose only. If you want a decent usable winding do not go beyond 10-20% change of parameters.
A Simple connection of winding from star to delta can give desired result in  KV or power.

In My case of DJI motor rewinding
1. I changed 3 strand copper to single strand ( for easy winding)
2. Used one gauge less wire ( than the sum of 3 wires area gauge wire)...... NO 4S & NO  10 inch props.
3. Kept same number of turns as actual ( 920Kv ) didn't want any issue with FC  & ESC timing. ( no knowledge so better to go with original)
4. Used the more efficient 9443 Props as DJI claims. ( these props are having very broad blade near to motor and becomes thin as it reaches tip. Less energy required by motor to turn a same pitch normal prop.

Hope this info helps.

Regds
Saurabh


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 30, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
Made some cosmetic changes colored arms and used 3M double sided tape to stick FC and receiver.

Did fly it to test battery time. I got nearly 14-15 min of fly time with 2200mAh battery. ( normal hovering flight)

regds
Saurabh


Title: Re: Scratch Built Quad
Post by: rastsaurabh on July 07, 2015, 11:52:57 AM
Custom box for carrying. Got idea from phantom v2 packaging.