RC India
Welcome Guest, please login or register.
 
Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Down
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Topic Tools Topic Tools 
Read
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 11:04:23 AM »
anwar
Administrator
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 141 
anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!
Offline Offline

City: Doha (Qatar) & Thrissur
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 11619
Join Date: Mar, 2009

RC India - Flying and racing with open minds !



VC, please ignore the above!!

Exactly. Just get your hands on whatever you can find easily (regardless of conversion type).  If you have choice (same availability and similar price, go for dual conversion). 

Even this "adjacent channel interference handling advantage" is a non issue these days, as the quality of the electronic parts involved have greatly improved that this is not considered a routine issue any more.
Logged

Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.
 

Read
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2010, 11:31:45 AM »
sushil_anand
Plane Lover
Forum Hero
*****

Reputation Power: 17 
sushil_anand has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: MUMBAI
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1274
Join Date: Jul, 2009



Quote
as the quality of the electronic parts involved have greatly improved that this is not considered a routine issue any more.

Anwar, the quality of parts is not the factor. Ask any one who does SW radio  listening - or "DXing" - and he/she will swear by the difference between single and dual conversion.

But it is, admittedly,  a non issue for RC.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2010, 11:49:25 AM by anwar » Logged

Hangar: Zlin 50L -120, CMPro Super Chipmunk, Ultimate Bipe EP, Imagine 50, Christen Eagle 160, Ultra Stick, Super Sports Senior
 

Read
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2010, 11:38:39 AM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



 Bang Head Head Scratching Bang Head Head Scratching Bang Head Head Scratching Huh? Huh? Huh?

Having some fun at my expense, are you guys?! Angry
Wait till I grow up and become knowledgeable like you, then I'm gonna show you - "adjacent channel interference handling advantage" and "10 kHz spacing"!!! >Cheesy

I'm having fun! But seriously guys, thanks a ton for trying to help me out.

Cheers!
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2010, 11:47:36 AM »
sushil_anand
Plane Lover
Forum Hero
*****

Reputation Power: 17 
sushil_anand has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: MUMBAI
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1274
Join Date: Jul, 2009



VC

Told you to ignore me Grin

But seriously, if you are contemplating getting into the hobby on a long term basis, spend even 20% more than your budget on a good Tx/Rx combo. You will not regret it. There is some pretty decent gear available from the on-line stores without the hassle of imports. Also keep your eyes open for re-sale items. There ARE good deals sometimes, particularly hen people are upgrading or giving up !!
Logged

Hangar: Zlin 50L -120, CMPro Super Chipmunk, Ultimate Bipe EP, Imagine 50, Christen Eagle 160, Ultra Stick, Super Sports Senior
 

Read
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2010, 12:14:52 PM »
anwar
Administrator
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 141 
anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!
Offline Offline

City: Doha (Qatar) & Thrissur
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 11619
Join Date: Mar, 2009

RC India - Flying and racing with open minds !



Anwar, the quality of parts is not the factor. Ask any one who does SW radio  listening - or "DXing" - and he/she will swear by the difference between single and dual conversion.

But it is, admittedly,  a non issue for RC.

It is a non-issue partly because of the channel spacing in RC, but it was a significant issue in the earlier times when the parts had wider tolerances.  From what I remember reading, crystals were the ones particularly prone to "creeping outside" their intended values, and dual conversion had greater advantage. With such parts working well within then intended/specified ranges, this seems to have become a non-issue (again, so much as JR did not even bother with it).

And yes, my response was RC specific Smiley
« Last Edit: February 05, 2010, 12:16:46 PM by anwar » Logged

Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.
 

Read
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2010, 12:17:09 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Sushil,

I guess there are very few people who are as taken up by modelling / aeromodelling as I am. Just that I have never thought about RC Aeromodelling very seriously, until recently. I've been scratch building gliders and stuff for the past 35 years. Most of this time has been devoted to Static modelling. I love scale, details and authenticity.

You are 100% right when you say that I should invest in a good Tx/Rx combo. So far I've been lucky (except this particular set) and people have given me wonderful bargains.

I am on the lookout for a 'proper' 6 Ch unit. Let me know if you come across something. I also need to work on my theory, like you guys, rather than just send something up in the air and pray for fair winds and trust in luck (which, I believe, doesn't exist!).

Cheers!

VC
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 01:07:01 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



I don't believe this! After all that we've been through collectively, look what I found........

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4613570/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm

Keeping my fingers and toes crossed! Undecided
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2010, 01:08:51 PM »
PankajC
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 13 
PankajC has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 1022
Join Date: Jul, 2009

Learning to Fly



all the best, do post result
Logged

Spektrum DX6i | EP Pusher Trainer | EP CUB |
 

Read
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2010, 01:12:47 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Will do Sir!
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 01:25:18 PM »
anwar
Administrator
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 141 
anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!
Offline Offline

City: Doha (Qatar) & Thrissur
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 11619
Join Date: Mar, 2009

RC India - Flying and racing with open minds !



The moment you get documentation, the game changes Wink   Thumbs Up

There is a serious lesson in this though (about the challenges in usage of all-in-one receiver units that come with RTF helis for other purposes).
Logged

Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.
 

Read
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2010, 08:26:44 PM »
PankajC
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 13 
PankajC has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 1022
Join Date: Jul, 2009

Learning to Fly



Hi VC,
Any progress?

Logged

Spektrum DX6i | EP Pusher Trainer | EP CUB |
 

Read
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2010, 09:37:37 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Not yet. Just this evening, an experienced RC modeller spent over 4 hrs with me unsuccessfully trying to breathe life into it. Now he has packed it up and taken it home. Let's hope he can bring it back to life. I have given up hope. However, there is a major lesson that I have learnt here.
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2010, 12:05:40 AM »
PankajC
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 13 
PankajC has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 1022
Join Date: Jul, 2009

Learning to Fly



Smiley This reminds me of a quote I saw at the back of a truck - "100 mein 80 log bay-i-man, phir bhi bole mera desh mahan"
Logged

Spektrum DX6i | EP Pusher Trainer | EP CUB |
 

Read
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2010, 12:31:45 AM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Pankaj,

I am not calling anyone a be-imaan. However, I would warn all newbies out there to beware of the Big Bad World and be aware of what your requirements are. Don't just buy something because it looks/sounds lucrative. Also remember, Helis and Planes DO crash and that there are a lot of people out there who are more than willing to unload their junk on you (in return for your money). If something looks/sounds too good to be true - it probably is! Once you have crashed and destroyed a 10 K heli/aircraft, anyone would try to recover a part of the amount through a sale of existing spares,

Make your communication with the seller 'idiot - proof'. So that there is no chance of anyone reverting and telling you later, "Oh! Is THAT what you REALLY wanted? I'm sorry, but I sold it to you in good faith because I thought you wanted something else."

Also remember, Heli Rx's and Aircraft Rx's are different in functionality. You can't always mix and match. Especially remember to avoid Chinese Rx units that come in a single package combining a Rx/Esc/Gyro. Avoid them like plague. Check with the seller and ask him to clarify. If he can't, ask him to post photographs or exact model/component numbers. Do a Google, study, research - then buy. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!

Spell it out - tell them WHAT you really need, what you will be using it for - else you will be a suckered like I have been.

It was my fault that I, perhaps, didn't state my requirements to the seller lucidly enough.  I am now hoping against hope that the seller is reading this and offers me a refund of my money. Though I still maintain, in his place and from his point of view - he has done nothing wrong.

With no offence to anybody at all.

Cheers!

VC
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2010, 11:31:01 AM »
sushil_anand
Plane Lover
Forum Hero
*****

Reputation Power: 17 
sushil_anand has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: MUMBAI
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1274
Join Date: Jul, 2009



Quote
I am on the lookout for a 'proper' 6 Ch unit. Let me know if you come across something.

There is a possibility of a Futaba 6 channel (6EXA if I am not mistaken) + Rx being available. The Rx is PCM and on the 36 MHz band. This is a relatively rarely used band so the chances of others being on the same frequency would be remote (pun intended)!

Will keep you posted on this as soon as it surfaces (if and when) and have had a chance to look at it.
Logged

Hangar: Zlin 50L -120, CMPro Super Chipmunk, Ultimate Bipe EP, Imagine 50, Christen Eagle 160, Ultra Stick, Super Sports Senior
 

Read
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2010, 11:56:00 AM »
sushil_anand
Plane Lover
Forum Hero
*****

Reputation Power: 17 
sushil_anand has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: MUMBAI
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1274
Join Date: Jul, 2009



VC

There's a posting on India RC that might be just what you need!

Check it out.
Logged

Hangar: Zlin 50L -120, CMPro Super Chipmunk, Ultimate Bipe EP, Imagine 50, Christen Eagle 160, Ultra Stick, Super Sports Senior
 

Read
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2010, 12:48:34 PM »
anwar
Administrator
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 141 
anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!anwar is awe-inspiring!
Offline Offline

City: Doha (Qatar) & Thrissur
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 11619
Join Date: Mar, 2009

RC India - Flying and racing with open minds !



This is the one : http://www.indiarc.com/forum/index.php?topic=3231.0

Decent deal, if your budget permits.
Logged

Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.
 

Read
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2010, 05:54:10 PM »
sushil_anand
Plane Lover
Forum Hero
*****

Reputation Power: 17 
sushil_anand has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: MUMBAI
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1274
Join Date: Jul, 2009



Quote
I am on the lookout for a 'proper' 6 Ch unit. Let me know if you come across something.

VC

There is a Futaba 6 CH 2.4 GHz set available. It is in excellent condition and is with the Rx and Tx batteries (Ni Cds), switch harness, and (110 V) charger. No servos. But the asking price - 8K - seems reasonable. Will post pics once it is with me.

Reason for selling: Upgrading.
Logged

Hangar: Zlin 50L -120, CMPro Super Chipmunk, Ultimate Bipe EP, Imagine 50, Christen Eagle 160, Ultra Stick, Super Sports Senior
 

Read
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2010, 09:02:11 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Dear Sushil / Anwar Sahab,

Thanks for the leads. However, with 31st March on the horizon, I can't think of investing 8 -10 K on a Tx/Rx right now. Especially, since I have just invested in 3 (a 2 Ch, a 4Ch and a 6 Ch Tx/Rx) sets and have not had the opportunity of testing either one of them operationally.

Thanks anyway! Thumbs Up

VC
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2010, 11:07:12 PM »
ankur
Scratch builder and diy'er
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
ankur has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Allahabad
State: Uttar Pradesh
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 750
Join Date: Aug, 2009

I am Gr8



btw vc uncle are u interested in selling any of the sets??
Logged

Ankur Singh,
Aged 14-Studing in Class 10th
 

Read
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2010, 10:44:25 AM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Hooray! Mr. Musawir Mustafa (Aeromodelling Instructor) managed to get the set working. He had to pickle his brains for awhile and I had to scour the net for resources to guide us.The circuit diagrams helped in making some modifications. 3 out of 4 Channels are functional. Thank God!

M1 and M2 are for Motors 1 and 2 (Main and Tail).
E IS the power supply socket.
The wire D (Black, Red, Yellow) does NOT go to the ESC (Rx has inbuilt Brushed ESC), it is for the Gyro. Now it goes into the Channel 5 socket to complete the circuit (since there is no Gyro being used) - This was the crucial step!
Servos are slotted into Ch 2 and Ch 3.

Thanks everyone for trying their best to help out.

Chapter closed. Thumbs Up
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
Help needed in setting up flaps on DX6i
Radios and Receivers
PankajC 9 9734 Last post February 05, 2011, 05:19:18 PM
by anwar
setting for 600 heli electric
Helis
akash chitmitwar 1 2339 Last post April 19, 2012, 10:41:16 AM
by anwar
need help setting up Futaba 8FG for heli
Helis
sameeroraut 2 2839 Last post July 17, 2012, 09:56:27 PM
by sameeroraut
Redcat racing 2.4 ghz remote setting and car setting
Cars
friends_9300 1 3738 Last post July 24, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
by iamahuman
helicopter kit setting with electronics
Chatter Zone
BhaveshLakhani 1 531 Last post September 06, 2023, 07:42:20 AM
by pnkyjs