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Please read this carefully before you import a Radio.

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OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER OF CUSTOMS ( IMPORT)
NEW CUSTOM HOUSE, BALLARD ESTATE, MUMBAI- 400 001.
F.No. S/22-39/13 PAS Date : 12.09.2013.
PUBLIC NOTICE NO.111/2013
Sub: Requirement of type approval from WPC for import of wireless
transmitters, wireless receiver, remote controlled toy
helicopters, toy aeroplanes for hobby/recreational/aero
modelling purpose and other wireless equipment operating in
the frequency band of 2.4 GHz to 2.4835 GHz – reg.
- - - - - - - -
Attention is invited of all trade members & individual importers importing or receiving
gifts at Postal Appraising Section, Foreign Post Office, Mumbai, from abroad consisting of
wireless transmitters, wireless receivers, remote controlled toy helicopters & toy aeroplanes
for hobby/recreational/aero-modelling purposes and other wireless equipments in the
frequency band of 2.4 GHz to 2.4835 GHz. to Rule 3 of Üse of Low Power Equipment in the
frequency band 2.4 GHz to 2.4835 GHz (Exemption from Licensing Requirement) Rules,
2005”, which specifies:
“Notwithstanding anything contained in any law for the time being in force, no licence
shall be required by any person to establish, maintain, work, possess or deal in any
wireless equipment, on non-interference, non-protection and shared (non-exclusive)
basis, in the frequency band 2.4 GHz with the transmitter power, Effective Radiated
Power and height of antenna as specified in the Table below, namely:-
TABLE
Maximum out power
of transmitter
Maximum Effective
Radiated Power
Height of Antenna
(1) (2) (3)
1 W (30 dBm) in Spread
of 10 MHz or higher
4 W (36 dBm) Within 5 metres above the
Roof top of existing
Authorized building.
2. Further as per Rule 6 of the above Rules:
(1) The wireless equipment shall be type approved and designed and constructed in
such manner that the bandwidth of emission and other parameters shall conform to the
limits specified in the Table referred to in rule 3.
(2) The application for obtaining equipment type approval shall be made to the Central
Government in such form as may be specified by that Government in this behalf”.
Contd…..2..
-- 2 –
3. Kind attention is also invited to the frequently asked questions available on the website
www.wpc.dot.gov.in, FAQ No.5, which is as follows:
Qn: Ïf a particular product is exempted from license, still I need to notify Wireless Planning
and Co-ordination Wing (WPC) about it before use? Can I import the same without need
of any license?
Ans: If the produce is not Type Approved, then it is required to inform WPC and obtain Type
Approval from WPC. Import License is required from WPC to import any equipment,
other than Broadcasting Receiver and TVRO System”.
4. Accordingly, even if as per manufacturer’s catalogue/certificate/clarification, the imported
subject wireless equipment meets all the conditions of Rule 3 even then as per Rule 6
type approval of the said equipment is required to be obtained from WPC. Each & every
wireless equipment operating in frequency band of 2.4GHz to 2.4835 GHz be it
transmitter, receiver, toy helicopter, toy aeroplane etc. whether meeting the requirements
of Rule 3 or otherwise are required to be type approved by the WPC before being
imported into India. If the product is not already type approved then after goods arrive in
India and before customs clearance, importers are required to inform WPC and obtain
type approval from them.
5. Accordingly, all the importers and trade members are hereby informed that henceforth no
import clearance of any subject mentioned wireless equipment will be allowed unless it is
type approved by the WPC. This is equally applicable to individual importers importing
one or two pieces for personal use i.e. hobby/recreation/aero-modelling purposes as well
as traders in commercial quantity.
6. For procedure regarding obtaining type approval, please refer to Memorandum dated
08.02.2007 of Ministry of Communications & Information Technology and the format for
application for equipment type approval, both available on website
www.wpc.dot.gov.in/docfiles/etaapplication.doc
(Sd/-)
( ASHUTOSH BARANWAL )
COMMISSIONER OF CUSTOMS (IMPORT)
NEW CUSTOM HOUSE, MUMBAI.
Copy to: All concerned.
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i ordered a bixler ARF from HK and it entered customs today. does this mean that it is on trouble?
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i ordered a bixler ARF from HK and it entered customs today. does this mean that it is on trouble?

Is a Bixler a radio?
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Attention is invited of all trade members & individual importers importing or receiving
gifts at Postal Appraising Section, Foreign Post Office, Mumbai, from abroad consisting of
wireless transmitters, wireless receivers, remote controlled toy helicopters & toy aeroplanes
for hobby/recreational/aero-modelling purposes and other wireless equipments in the
frequency band of 2.4 GHz to 2.4835 GHz. to Rule 3 of Üse of Low Power Equipment in the
frequency band 2.4 GHz to 2.4835 GHz (Exemption from Licensing Requirement) Rules,
2005”,

i asked because i can't understand legal language, and it says something about aeromodels here... toy aeroplanes...
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This is old news. You cannot import radio without a WPC type approval and import license. Applicable for both personal and commercial import. The circular is just reinforcing the rule.
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That you are wrong...you can import anything if your transmitter is 2.4 GHZ..

please refer WPC website.
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Is the Commissioner of Customs wrong? It is in black and white.

The Radio first needs type approval, then Import permission. If you import without these formalities, and it clears, good,you are lucky. If it doesn't, you may wheedle your way through. But the legal position is absolutely clear; this is not only for Mumbai Customs. Being a Central Government agency, this notification is now Case Law All-India unless contermanded
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Again....You must check WPC website and rules.

That already they are declare that 2.4 Ghz Band is free to use.

No license is require for 2.4 GHZ that already mention in WPC website so we do not need to license if our transmitter meet the requirement..
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If this makes you happy, fine. But the writing is on the document, despite whatever you may wish it to be. I am NOT interested in arguing or clarifying; I have just posted this in public interest and awareness. The only end users with a clear awareness, and with Customs things are not always straightforward, are those LHS owners who have taken a type approval and legally import.
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I think this is a great step forward in regularization of this hobby, only problem that i see is months of red tape and bureaucracy for an individual to get the ETA to import the Tx, however if we can find a way to get ETA through some organisation, it will prove to be a good step forward for all RC Hobbies in India. Agreed we do have LHS who have bought radios that are ETA’ed, but its not possible for them to have all the radios,  so incase someone wants to get a radio that's not available with LHS  he/she would be ankle to import the radio without any sort of worries our harassment.
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better option than this customs mumbo jumo n bull crap just spend another 2 k more order by dhl ups fedex  on time delivery n no issues ...plus anyway those hungry customs guys are gonna chew more than 2k in customs
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Shannon, at work very often we have imported stuff via DHL, Fedex, especially when projects are nearing completion. It is a total rip-off on the customs front. Those guys just pay whatever the Customs say, and backcharge you. I have even had situations where the USA office has exercised the option of pre=paid Customs Duty, still these courier guys have charged an arm and a leg over and above this Sad
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Again....You must check WPC website and rules.

That already they are declare that 2.4 Ghz Band is free to use.

No license is require for 2.4 GHZ that already mention in WPC website so we do not need to license if our transmitter meet the requirement..

This has been clarified multiple times before. Just because 2.4Ghz is unlicensed does not mean you can import at will. The equipment has to be "type approved" by WPC, to fully conform to existing rules (which is again clarified in the public notice mentioned in original/first post of this thread).

Just search for "type approval" here. 

http://www.rcindia.org/search2?search=type+approval
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i have never paid customs using the courier upto 200$+ shipping ..and not under invoiced...i know they have their own customs clearance officers so i doubt they will be so tough with their customs
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Guys, no point in arguing this. If you have got your radio without any hassles, you are just plain lucky and thanks to the ignorance of the official.

Any radio import, individual or commercial needs license and it has to be type approved. Period. Its clear on WPC site. Blame it on the hobby distributors for making it tough for individual importers.
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Blame it on the hobby distributors for making it tough for individual importers.

Bit extreme that, putting the blame on the Hobby Distributors!
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Again....You must check WPC website and rules.

That already they are declare that 2.4 Ghz Band is free to use.

No license is require for 2.4 GHZ that already mention in WPC website so we do not need to license if our transmitter meet the requirement..

hi... i import a lot of wireless radios for data communication purpose in the 2.4 and 5.8 GHz bands... and let me tell you one thing... even if you have the bands open for free use in India the WPC Equipment Type Approval (ETA) is a must for each and every radio transmission equipment entering in the Indian boundaries.....

even the License Free Walkie Talkie that I have working on the 27MHz in India had to get the ETA before getting the custom clearance.

please remember that ETA is mandatory and you have the ETA approval form on the WPC website for download. you can submit it to the regional WPC office of your area with the fees ( which on average is Rs. 500 per approval ) and wait for the clearance to come through.

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Attached the public notice. Yes Type approval is mandatory even for an individual importer as well now.
Isn't it a STUPID, CORRUPTED, MEANINGLESS, WORST, IDIOTIC government rule ? Think logically, How can an individual importer gets type approval ? An Individual importer will order only one item, that gets stuck in customs, now we need to go to WPC with empty hands and has to get the type approval for remote control. HOW FUNNY IT IS...

Residents of USA, the most secured government, are importing these Remote Controls with out any hassles, Where as our worst government is implementing all these silly rules.

I have just ordered a medium size 4 channel RTF heli from banggood.com in the month of august. It got stucked in customs for 3 months, when i contacted them, they are saying this answer "We need type approval for your heli". After keeping it for 3 months, that too i started communicating with them, then they are saying that they need type approval. Then i asked them to send it back, finally they have started the process of sending it back, dont know when it will go to seller, not sure, if seller accepts the item or not, after this much delay.

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You are Right...

they need vitamin "M" so they are making new rule for this...

At 1st customs need Vitamin M and now The WPC also need Vitamin "M" .....
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Can anyone tell me...what is the meaning of this??

"licensing for possession and use?"

Just tell me the meaning of "possession"
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Ok so clearance for tx is a must fine agreed... Y has heli kits n plane kits having no radio oon board have to go through this wpc clearance....how does tht affect wpc...
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