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« on: June 25, 2011, 11:28:19 AM »
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Hi

I am new to this group. I leave in Germany but i am returning back to India.

I want to know if 1.2 Ghz, 1.3Ghz, 5.8Ghz, and 900Mhz are legal in India? And what is maximum power rating for the transmitter in each frequency band.

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 11:48:38 AM »
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See point #4 here, for legalized RC transmitter use : http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/airport-customs-issues/msg19005/#msg19005

Note: There are more WPC approved radios being sold in India now, not just from Indian Hobbies.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 12:36:31 PM »
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from what i have gained from my talk with a senior official of the telecom department..

1> all freq below 100Mhz are open. will be only blocked during VIP movements and have no strain on use of it

2> 2.4Ghz is a open spectrum and any one can use it. no restrictions on it and will be blocked only during VVIP movement. along with all other freq except 103Mhz(which is police freq)


my grandfather was a customs officer at mumbai airport and acccording to him all electronics are considered as toys( except cellphones, camera, laoptop etc) even a Tx is toy. and has no restrictions on carrying it personally( or sometimes by package). the reason why the officials dont allow you to get it into the country because they have been bribed by some local seller to block it. and he will pay some cash as duty and get it into his shop for sale.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 12:41:32 PM »
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Thanx anwar for the quick reply.

I have 2.4Ghz Futaba Radio.

But i wanted to know what frequency i can use for Video and Telemetry.

I have seen ppl using 900Mhz and 1.2 Ghz and 5.8Ghz etc. Are those legally allowed in India?Huh?

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 12:58:21 PM »
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I have not seen anything that says these bands are de-licensed, which means that you will need at least permissions to import equipment in these bands. On top of that, AP is for sure restricted and FPV is a grey area.

Waiting for others with solid information to comment.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 01:04:08 PM »
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the reason why the officials dont allow you to get it into the country because they have been bribed by some local seller to block it. and he will pay some cash as duty and get it into his shop for sale.

 Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

If I miss a Tx on post Here in shillong I should go in search to local seller near FPO Kolkata  Cry

Outrageous. EMS/Tracked and registered parcels only for me from now on.
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1> all freq below 100Mhz are open. will be only blocked during VIP movements and have no strain on use of it

Although that may what is followed in practice (and why a blind eye is turned towards import/use of Mhz radios), it does not seem to be what is in written law/rules. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 02:18:03 PM »
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Are you serious that use of AP and FPV is illegal???

And i am guessing still ppl use FPV and AP.



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The same way people use 72Mhz radios Smiley

"You are on your own" seems to summarize it.  Applying common sense really helps... don't fly near scale aircraft areas (airports, security sensitive locations etc), crowded areas, etc etc.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 02:33:10 PM »
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Good to know that.

Thanx for the help.... Salute
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Seek out a club, or take initiative to build one.  Like anything else, there is certainly "strength in numbers", and does help add clout, which in turn helps with officialdom (at least to a certain extent, as compared to being alone). 
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2011, 02:43:14 PM »
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True that.....will try.... Smiley
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Jus went through the national frequency allocation plan-2011

Use of 2.4-2.4835 Ghz using a maximum transmitter output power of 1 Watt (4 Watts Effective Radiated
Power) with spectrum spread of 10 MHz is legal

5.150-5.350 GHz and 5.725 – 5.875 using a maximum mean Effective Isotropic Radiated Power of 200 mW is legal

Frequency band 890-902.5MHz paired with 935-947.5MHz has been earmarked for cellular telecom systems

May be some veteran HAM operators can help out on this issue? QRU??

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2011, 04:09:01 PM »
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Thank you Jatayu. That information was very helpful.

Is any one using Xbee 900 Module for Telemetry???
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Jus went through the national frequency allocation plan-2011

Where did you find this plan? Can you post any link?
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Surely! there u go

http://www.dot.gov.in/as/Draft%20NFAP-2011.pdf

just looked at the specific frequencies from page 150 onwards....
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my grandfather was a customs officer at mumbai airport and acccording to him all electronics are considered as toys( except cellphones, camera, laoptop etc) even a Tx is toy. and has no restrictions on carrying it personally( or sometimes by package). the reason why the officials dont allow you to get it into the country because they have been bribed by some local seller to block it. and he will pay some cash as duty and get it into his shop for sale.

 Salute Salute

Truly Said.  Not only the Tx. LHS Dealers even bribe for blocking all the high end items like kits arfs on which they make a killing. this is one reason i dont like/prefer LHS. i only buy from them when its utterly necessary.
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Wow...i never knew my LHS guy was cheating me at my back...and told me unnatural issues with customs...!!!!
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5.150-5.350 GHz and 5.725 – 5.875 using a maximum mean Effective Isotropic Radiated Power of 200 mW is legal

Earmarking a frequency for particular use, and delicensing it completely are two different things. There are new WiFi routers that are using 5.8Mhz, that is probably why it is being marked for delicensing in the new proposal.
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Truly Said.  Not only the Tx. LHS Dealers even bribe for blocking all the high end items like kits arfs on which they make a killing. this is one reason i dont like/prefer LHS. i only buy from them when its utterly necessary.

Oh boy Sad Please don't generalize such things.  Vast majority of LHSes are run by hobbyists, who also try to make an honest living.  They have enough problems already, let us not add to their worries with such catergorization.

Remember that HobbyKings of this world will not come to your field to help beginners.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2011, 12:36:02 AM »
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5.8GHz Audio & Video repeater (7KM Guranted range) gazette Sold legally without licensing hassle, I have seen in Kolkata.

I have asked them and they told it's legal (? I surprised with 7KM range). It's small enough (1" x 5" x 7") with 9 volt battery and a small antenna (Small than 2.4GHz) and priced 11K+ before 6 months appx.

7KM guaranteed range will surely increase in LOS (Line Of Sight).

Can anyone check this in local area? It's available in home security shops (I cant recall but it's a renowned manufacturer) as well as handycam repaire shops too.
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there is no rule in importing stuff. after the trade gates were open, after WTO meet. import duty is only applicable for items of commercial use only ( to those who want to sell it in the local market and gain some fast cash). and no duty is to be paid for any personal item brought from abroad

Dont know which world you have been living in. Try to carry two laptops, couple of iPod or camera through airport customs and you would know what customs can do to you.
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+1.  There is a strict limit of around Rs25000 these days for the value of good imported from foreign travel. In fact, there was a recent report in the media about how almost every passenger coming in from the Middle-East would be a candidate to customs scrutiny as the price of gold has risen significantly, and owning just over a sovereign of gold would push people over the free allowance.
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please read reply #2. there are restrictions on only some items... n not on toys(Tx is considered as one)

and forgot to mention that permission for transmission of freq is required from 85-109Mhz if it is a tramission of mode of media(radio for eg)
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