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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2011, 09:22:18 PM »
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TX is "considered" a toy ? From what I gathered all along, it gets much more complicated than that with HS codes and categorization.

Just search for "restricted item" here.

http://www.rcindia.org/search2?search=restricted+item
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2011, 09:34:42 PM »
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i have explained why the Tx get caught in customs

if you have a closer look people from only specific states suffer and not all( people getting stuff from the customs of Gujarat, WB, north india, calcutta, mumbai etc)

i dont think many people had problems while getting it from bangalore customs. krixx got his radio 6exp with only duty to be paid of  Indian Rupees 1300 delivered to his door step.(the reason for this is that it was got by parcel and declared as  Indian Rupees 5000+ amt. dont remember the orig cost)

the reason they again get stuck is that: the items are declared less amt (like what hobby king does) and Customs suspect you as fraudsters.
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2011, 10:36:47 PM »
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I think you are losing the distinction between how officers operate versus what the law is.  Even for already WPC approved radios, one still needs to get an individual import license. It does not make sense that officers can hold on to items just for personal benefit, without any backing of the law.

Lots of people are getting away with radio imports, others run into trouble.  Some offices (as a whole) or individual officers take a relaxed attitude towards such imports, while others do not.

See this thread also :

http://www.rcindia.org/beginners-zone/do-indian-customs-permit-import-of-a-4ch-receiver/msg61570/#msg61570
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2011, 11:35:41 PM »
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I think you are losing the distinction between how officers operate versus what the law is.  Even for already WPC approved radios, one still needs to get an individual import license.

Sir, Kindly dont talk about law. EX. In a police station the PSO is the law in our country or for that matter anywhere in the world. cuz they can manipulate the law as they deem fit. i wont go into details but obviously u haven't had any dealing with these ppl who are supposed to implement law. when they want to twist the law they do it to an extent that u cant beat them. ex. for toys there is a certain HS code (i have talked about some time back on this forum) when u import the toys from china u have to produce u certain certificate which u cant get cuz its for manufacturers only not for personal import. but they will tell u to get it which u obviously cant then what will u do. bribe them or pull some strings.

It does not make sense that officers can hold on to items just for personal benefit, without any backing of the law.
Lots of people are getting away with radio imports, others run into trouble.  Some offices (as a whole) or individual officers take a relaxed attitude towards such imports, while others do not.

they can hold any item which they want cuz getting proper paper work in our loving country is very difficult task so most ppl avoid it and take the other option. last time i did not avoid it and did some paperwork to satisfy their queries and they let my parcel release from Delhi FPO.
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2011, 01:55:24 AM »
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u haven't had any dealing with these ppl who are supposed to implement law.

You have no idea what (business) activities I am involved in.  People who know me personally on this forum will know Smiley And running any business will put you in situations that an individual will most likely not have to face, in terms of officialdom.  Just try to build a commercial building of 3+ floors in any city, and you will know (if you don't know already).

In any case, paying under the table or using influence (via influential people) are all secondary.  With the relaxed attitude, I was only referring to why certain postal/customs offices have a large number of parcels passing through without issues.

Although this is better not discussed further, especially with the language in the above post, the fact remains that there are restrictions. Let us not confuse others (especially beginners) by giving them the feeling that TXs are considered toys and you can import them at will !

How you work around the restrictions is not the norm.  If they insist on by-the-book treatment, your "I threw *some* paper work at them" would not fly at all, until you satisfied the import license requirements.
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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2011, 03:18:24 AM »
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Hi,

We all know the problems created by the (most but not all) corrupted Govt. people specially when they are encouraged by others to do so (Specially some High Margin LHSs). So they got tripple earned (Govt. Salary + Direct twisting cut money + Encouragement fees). Then why not put your known persons/relatives to work for nation and to replace at least one corrupted people with Iron Determination. So, are not we responsible?

I know Govt. salary not higher like private ones but enough for simple leaving, but who will work for out nation if all good people join private job from Campus and does not offer him/her as a national cadet by joining Govt. Job to serve motherland?

Anwar sir, Please excuse me, who knows the internals, cannot restrict himself to outburst including me and so, I may say that crazypilot have give a polite reply here than he can gave.

However we all want to avoid all this so that it cannot reside even in back-brain.

Thanks that RCBazzar, Anam, Sai Uncle, RCDhamaka, VK are taking the pain and giving relief to us. This may vanish the high margin LHSs who encourage ~!@#$%'s which will be good for hobby. Crazypilot pointed the locations and smart people can realize who makes the problem. So, can we ban them simply not purchasing from them ?

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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2011, 11:19:51 AM »
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please read reply #2. there are restrictions on only some items... n not on toys(Tx is considered as one)

and forgot to mention that permission for transmission of freq is required from 85-109Mhz if it is a admissions of mode of media(radio for eg)

http://www.cbec.gov.in/travellers.htm

I couldn't agree more with Anwar. Don't take customs/authorities like you Paa/Mom that they would heed to your tantrums, and let you 'Do' what you 'Believe' than what the laws are. your above comment is more like ostrich sinking its head into sand to believe that no body is seeing him! You talk about RC Tx, I know of certain HAM trying to get a Car CD player sized HF radio without approval, and he was threatened to booked under POTA (believe me, they legally CAN do it, my Dad is a lawyer and uncle himself a highly placed custom official, and I had enough argument with them like you, only to concede to them).  Recently Imran Khan of DK Bose fame was caught with a RTF RC Heli on Mumbai airport, and he lost it all together.

Anwar is absolutely right, you may get away with it (and I am praying for my 8FG), but just like when you break a Red light and land safe without being hit by other traffic, you give a sigh and  thank god, you cannot take these action for granted safe.

Kindly dont talk about law. EX. In a police station the PSO is the law in our country or for that matter anywhere in the world.
A$* be it money or a certain call from someone.
I would recommend you to hold you emotion and read the forum rules again. You choice of few words are not good for this forum. This forum is not a place to vent frustration from authorities in a way it would harm the community. If I an Admin of this forum, you would have been banned altogether, so respect Anwar for his generosity.  

I know there are Baba and Anna today on the street doing an agitation, braving to fight even the authorities, but they were without any blemish. If you dare the authority when you dont have a legal grounds, you have to either loose some of your fortune to get away and loose all the comfort of your home, let alone recreations like RC.


Although this is better not discussed further, especially with the language in the above post, the fact remains that there are restrictions. Let us not confuse others (especially beginners) by giving them the feeling that TXs are considered toys and you can import them at will !

+1 times a many.  I went for a toss almost 2 years back as few people on other forum gave me a false comfort and I had to take the route#2 for my Radio from Towers (as the Radio of my choice was not sold by LHS). From my experience, I always discourage people for repeating my feat. Other parts are fine by this piece of equipment is troublemaker. I bet there would many other on the forum who faced some difficulty, but I don't shy away to accept that.

Even after having some ridiculous laws, very thankfully the implementation of the same is very slack. Thats why we usually  get away cheap most of the times. If we were in countries where there is a very strict implementation of (whatever) laws like in Middle East, US, EU  etc, I bet getting many things thru would have been almost impossible or absolutely risky. Thats 2 side of the coin of our country.
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2011, 11:30:20 AM »
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From my personal experience, the ones who "hold up" things are just out to harass - for obvious reasons - or real bureaucrats who wan't to go by the book. If the latter, reasoning usually works provided you  are on firm ground. 
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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2011, 11:36:44 AM »
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If the latter, reasoning usually works provided you  are on firm ground. 

That "firm ground" is not easy for the common man... as it can involve all the way up to getting WPC approval (which may have been done by someone else already) followed by a personal import license (which the individual is forced to do). 

I am just worried that we are telling people it is a piece of cake.  It may very well end up being a piece of cake, depending on ones luck.  But we cannot leave people without adequate warning about possible issues.
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From my personal experience, the ones who "hold up" things are just out to harass - for obvious reasons - or real bureaucrats who wan't to go by the book. If the latter, reasoning usually works provided you  are on firm ground.  


I have quite a different opinion, if you agree with the Law as it is written, for the time being. First, our postal customs have been generously accepting grossly under-invoiced items. They have been even generous not charging bigger items like my huge box of AXN Floater of 15x40x10 size, even it was invoiced properly. Even recently they called me for the invoice for one of my parcel and after interviewing for 10 mins, released with duties based on the invoice.

If you consider the exemptions on Airport, I again bet many people cross the USD 500/Rs 25000 /One Laptop (which is still not a good amount) by huge margin. If you then think that those officials are no smarter than a Rickshaw puller, that they wont quiz you , you are mistaken. If they wont't ask any duty on the exempted value if you carry proper bill. You can always pay duty on the exceeding value and walk with peace. The problem begins when we think that we should get away with the exceeding value for free, and the officials think they should get something for their leniency, and then only point of all fuss remains is the middle ground between the legal duty fee and the 'lesser' convenience fee.

If you see police on a picket doing verification of vehicle papers, do you think you wont be stopped if you were not wearing a Helmet ? Govt is indeed bleeding 100's corore in import duties every year. This does empower the official to what ever you call 'Harass'. If you are under the limit, even the corrupt ones wont waste time you. This harass thing is most of the time  like The pot calling the kettle black.
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Dont know which world you have been living in. Try to carry two laptops, couple of iPod or camera through airport customs and you would know what customs can do to you.

Right Said, There's always limit of value of the goods you can carry with you, while traveling abroad.

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I think Customs officials are smart enough to under stand the nature and value of goods being imported. Even if under valued they under stand that, they are showing some leniency, out of their discretionary power, because they well understand for what RC goods are imported for and by whom. 

Once a LHS owner told me that a custom official has shown him the page of website of a Chinese seller, where you are asked for the value you want to declare in your invoice for customs. They just close their eyes because they think the goods are for hobbyists and students and not for commercial use. Even the sender's name is different on your parcels and your invoice, and the payment you have made to, Custom officials are not illiterate, I presume.
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They just close their eyes because they think the goods are for hobbyists and students and not for commercial use.

+1.  Exactly what I meant by "relaxed attitude".
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Hi ! I'm new to the forum and I think they must also include multirotor's along with heli and planes and all that.... Ok to the point.... I'm planning on a long range fpv setup so I decided to go with immersionrc's ezuhf.... But I need a ham lisence to operate legally right Huh?
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I was looking for legal frequencies in India. This thread is quite old. Any updates?

What kind of transmitters can be used? Power, frequency-range.

I am a noob looking for some information which I can use in one of my IoT projects. Head Scratching
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@nmfpv IMHO there is nothing like legal frequency 2.4ghz and 5ghz ISM bands which you can used freely, for other you might need licensing from tele communication departments. I guess upto 250mW to max 1 watts you can use these frequencies not sure though. 800Mhz is being used for mobile communications so one should avoid that, other common frequency is 433 Mhz used in LoRA. If you experiment too much with frequency it's always best idea to take a HAM License test and become a HAM License radio operator. Hope that helps!
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