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« on: October 11, 2011, 05:03:05 PM »
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Hey Guyz,
you can find USB simulator phoenix G5 aerofly XTR all in one usb with cables on Ebay india .....  

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Hello Guyz ,
Good news for beginners ,

You can get all in on 12 in 1 simulator in one usb dongle ...saving 100's of dollar $$$$$$$$ .... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

You can find on ebay.in !!!!!!!  
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 10:21:12 PM »
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here is the link

http://www.ebay.in/itm/12in1-Simulator-USB-Cable-Phoenix-v3-Aerofly-XTR-G5-w-Esky-FUTABA-JR-cables-/220870241890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item336ce46e62#ht_3629wt_1119
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 07:09:04 AM »
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this one exactly the same for 703.20 Indian Rupees , how do I know ? because I am using it. Wink why is yours so overly priced ?

http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=56&products_id=300

This item is available and not sold out, at 2200 Indian Rupees your is a complete ripoff, I have reported so in eBay.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 12:57:44 PM »
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does it support phoenix v3 , aero fly latest version or real flight G5 ...Huh?
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Yes it does. I can upload some screen shots if u want
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It supports the old version of software. Its not worth buying. No offence. I'm the only one selling on Ebay. Cheers Thumbs Up

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Sjejani - If you are the one selling it, why is that NOT made clear in the first post itself ?  Why is it presented in a "third person" angle ?  We prefer things to be black and white on this forum... everything done with as much transparency as possible... taking the audience into confidence.

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 11:42:59 PM »
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It supports the old version of software. Its not worth buying. No offence.

you have no clue of what you are saying, let me make it clear, this one from RCD supports latest Aerofly, Realflight G5, Phoenix RC , etc etc. it has a switch on one side where you can select the rc sim you are using, including all types of cables, if you have any doubts about it ask Fulli Buxy , he has seen it with his own eyes (That is if you are from Nagpur as stated and you know him).

You have barked up the wrong tree for Ripoff Wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 02:15:15 AM »
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Gusty bhai - At least once "Virtual RC Racing" is mentioned in the item description... so this may have a surface simulator also.  That would make this a different product, at a different pricing point.  Something to consider.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 07:02:22 AM »
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Anwar bhai, it is exactly the same product (atleast the look of the cover) the DVDs are called saili, there are two DVDs, it has a surface sim too, aerofly updates to the latest version from the Internet, loads of aircraft models in it( including a paratrooper) g5 updates upto add-on pack 8, it has a beutiful heli sim(fpv), phoenix RC  latest version. Fms and a whole bunch of other RC sims .  all for 705 Indian Rupees , he/she is most welcome to sell it on eBay, (like they say, there is a sucker born every minute) , not here , I guess we are a bunch of informed people, who look out for these things, no, ?
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I recently bought this from HK (my favorite source) http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=13597 at less than USD 5 (even with postage this is less than Rs 500). It came with a CD with lot of software that looked to be copied stuff, but I did not install any as I have a legal version.

It reached me within 7 days without custom hassles and works beautifully with my Spektrum Dx6i

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@ Pankaj

I am using this which you are talking about from HK it is very good dongle it does not up date to the latest software of aerofly and Real flight. it does not have the switch either. It needs an additional intelink software for Realflight.

@Gusty

I was one of the sucker who bought this so called 12 in one simulator dongle from ebay on 08 Oct 2011 from Mr Sanket Jejani,

when I bought from him he did not have the dongle with him he said he is using one which is really a 12 in 1 simulator dongle. He said he has ordered 10 more pieces which is due to reach him in 10 days and he needs time extension for delivery for 15 - 20 days.

Like a fool giving benefit of doubt to this fellow I acceded to his request and approved his time extension for delivery in ebay even though I had doubt in my mind it was the same dongle sold by RCD.

When the time extension was nearing just to tide away the deadline he gave a false POD number of some unnamed as local courier POD number which was not trackable.

later after few days he spoke to me saying he is having problem in sending the product to me and he gave me a Firstflight courier POD which turned out to be destined for Nagpur. Later he told me another POD number of Firstflight. All the while I knew he was just buying time for his ordered dongle to arrive. I was hopping like hell it was a 12 in 1 Dongle for the price he had posted.

When he had no option to deliver. He send me his used Dongle and copied DVD of his original DVDs. have a look at the picture of his listing and what he had sent me.

Even now if the Dongle and the software were working I would have spared him. since I was the one who was extending his deadline in the hopes that it was really a 12 in 1 Simulator.

The simulator dongle which came was a 9 in 1 dongle exact same replica of what is sold by RCD. However the DVD were his replica, counterfeits. The DVD was neither copying on to the computer nor it was installing on the computer. Phoenics was a total non installer. Realflight non starter. The Dongle with loose connection in the slider switch so you had to press it and insert for the computer to recognize. If there is even a small vibration the dongle will switch off and blue light will vanish and say unknown device.

He sent me only the counterfeit DVDs, dongle and square port cable for futaba hidden inside and Slot cut in a book and declared as document. He for the effort increased the weight of parcel so much he has paid for documents Rs 250/- (Which I really doubt since it has to be more than a KG for doucument to be charged Rs 250/-)

After all this, he had the audacity to call me a liar and Cheat and was claiming I had changed the dongle with a cheap one already bought from RCD and made copies of the original DVD and that he had sent me the Original DVD.

After really talking sense to him and giving him a negative feedback in his ebay profile, now he has agreed to accept the return for refund. With my negative feedback his profile had come down to 90% because of which, his all payment from paisapay would have frozen till clearing of controversy and he will not be able to post any more for sale. This must have come as a rude shocker to him being new.  So was his softening of stand maintained.

This is the listing of ebay.com where he has bought before 23 Sep 2011 for exactly Rs 600/- (Pulled out from his feedback profile)

http://www.ebay.in/itm/130574587889#ht_8697wt_1139

The Photos and listing contents of his sale listing is exact replica of the ebay.com listing where he has bought it. When selling same item for Rs 2500/- and with listing description as absolutely brand new, box packed, will be dispatched in two days of purchase and mostly with a return policy of return accepted within seven days of receipt. One does not expect to receive a counterfeit copy made by him of the original DVD which came with the product in shabby packing as the photographs. Atleast it should work.  When I am trying to explain to him it is not working and I want a refund (because I knew he does not have another piece since it is always replacement/refund in ebay).

After posting a return policy of return in seven days fighting I will not approve your refund was immature to say the least.

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Oh boy Sad  Yet another "get rich quick" scheme Bang Head 

I guess the seller is not going to respond here anymore, since he is logging in here but not saying anything so far.
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i remember showing you this cover, you have flown my simulator,  incl G5 and the works, and how can you get sucked into this Huh?? ROFL
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Haso Gusty Aur Haso.  Bang Head

Kya karen kabhi ho Jatha hai.  Roll Eyes

That's what you get giving benefit of doubt to a human being. I had bought it way long back i.e 08 Oct 2011. Infact I was the idiot who gave him idea of posting in this forum  Bang Head  Bang Head

I was really hoping like hell it was a different Simulator dongle with all the works as claimed by him much better than RCD.  Huh?  Angry Lips Sealed  Bang Head
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I am sorry for what ever happened .... i am not selling any product on ebay or anything web .... and i was a buyer ..this is the first time that i sold something on ebay .... !!! cheerz
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Sanket,
looking at your lineage and where you studied and worked, how can you do this man, i hope you take a lesson from here, you know the advantage of being truthful and honest is , you don't need to know, when did you lie and what, sound good night's sleep is another advantage,

Today's age you can run, you cant hide, as i write you are being tracked, do know that.
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Dear sanket,

I have already sent you back your package via DTDC POD Number K51899136 Photos attached.

I will be posting the scanned copies of the POD to ebay paisapay, customer support as well as to your email ID. Hope you receive it back in time.

All is well that's ends well. I think we can surely leave this behind. since everyone involved including myself has learnt somethings out of this. So cheerz to that.

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This is the best way a lesson is taught..

Time is still ripe. I hope Mr Sanket should also learn that the item should not be offered for sale until you owe it "with correct specifications".. 
@ Mr. Sanket, these small mistakes are the ones which cause human distrust.. Its never too late to pardon and make up again.
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to put matters to rest, he sent me a PM and and said won't do it again (apart from a lot of other things), i once again echo what i always say and Anwar Bhai in the post above of Goodness of Human Being, he is refunding and getting over with it

Good Sanket
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listen everyone ....the simulator is working fine completely tested ,,, if i am selling for 2200/- i will obviously sell a good piece .... Augustine and sundaram from same city and sundharam is a active forum member ...so why did he bought a 2200/- simulator when he was getting a 700rs simulator .... !!and now i dont even care .... ALL this rcindia forum does is promote items for RCD and support them ...and sundaram is a one big lair , and he is begging for his 2200rs ...which will be refunded .. !!!! I never though a Lt Col. Army man will do such a cheap act ... !!!!!  And i know the moderator will delete this post because its against them ....  !!!! but i dont care any more .... !!! Good luck with our business
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Mr Sanket,

Aeromodelling is a hobby very dear to us my dear friend. In the zeal to get it early as described by you in your ebay listing that it will be dispatched in two days of purchase. I bought it from you. I was not expecting you will deliver one month late and that too counterfeit replicas of the original DVD with a used Simulator bought by you on 13 Sep 2011 from ebay.com ebay ID : wi-model2. The Original DVD you have conveniently retained with yourself and  making all tall claims it is working with you its of no concern to me. What you have sent me is not what you have posted, at-least for the sake of inflated claim it is worth Rs 2300/-. Who cares if it is working with you or not. You have not sent me the same product working with you but sent me a counterfeit copy of the same.

No one is begging from you for Rs 2300/-. In your Dreams if you are expecting that I will be scammed  and cheated for even Rs 1/- leave alone Rs 2300/- by a Kid in the position and stature where I am. You are living in a world of online fraud and piracy and you expect your word to be believed as a gospel truth you are living in a fantasy princess fairy land my boy.

I have posted the exact link of where you have bought the product for exactly Rs 600/- pulled out from your own ebay feedback profile. Still you want to claim Its Rs 2300/- worth. You don't even have a working replacement to give me let alone delivering the piece you bought from ebay.com intact to me.

You have posted in your link a brand new, original box packed, two day delivery, 7 day return policy in your listing description.  After sending a counterfeit replica now fighting immaturely saying I will not give a refund is childish. Like I told you earlier if I did not have an intention of buying from you I would not given you the time extension for delivery in ebay which you requested for. I would have got refund 15 Days back. I tried to live up to my commitment of purchase in ebay but you still want to make fake claims after sending me a replicated copy and used non working simulator dongle

I am a Soldier my Boy. I have been bread to Kill my enemy even before he even dreams of attacking me. Even though I have removed all the personal remarks made earlier after your Sorry, I  knew very well all your sorry in ebay and here are all blatant lie, again to distract me away for not giving me the refund due to me.

I knew you will respond like this after I have filed for refund in ebay.
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Hey boy, had I been at your place, I would have sincerely apologised and refunded the amount Smiley.... You know why ?

a) Creating a cordial relationship is much important than earning only 2300 Rs
b) He is a highly respectable senior officer, for him there is no loss but a disappointment that another fellow beccome a cheater.
c) Given a chance, If a Senior office of his rank and intellect is ready to become my friend in just 2300 Rs, I would jump of that opportunity.

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With all respect ....

Sir ....  Be true to your country ,, atleast i hope so .... which RCD is selling is also a replica .... if you buy a mp3 ..you copy and distrubute to 10 friends .... and 100s of ipod then ...that doesnot mean the songs which you copied is duplicate or you have changed the lyrics ....I hope you are mature enough to understand this ....  and about dongle i will see to it what have you done.. i have seen your post it clearly shows that you are a computer geek and electronics also ..... you and rcd mixed up and called up my sample piece and did al the operations .... more over you have the free TIME to search my source of buying (wimodel2) and all ... with all respect stop being such a looser ...  why would a buyer take pain to search the source from where he bought the simulator. And regarding my simulator if it doenot work when it is back to me ... i will see how you get your refund back.... !!!! bye no more comment from my side dont have time for stupid things ....  
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With all due respect,

If not immature really cheeky my boy. Go ahead with what you can. Don't even dream That the ebay refund or no refund is the end of it. You will know when it hits you.

Every seller has the right to sell anything at the price which he thinks its worth. But surely that does not absolve him from delivering what he has promised for that price. You cannot get away with listing an illusion and deliver peanuts.   
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i am not doing anything ................. i will refund your money .... i want the product back as it was send to you ...finish ... !!! peace out ....!!!
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ALL this rcindia forum does is promote items for RCD and support them

YES !  RC India supports RCDhamaka, and all others in this list :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/mega-list-of-all-rc-outlets-in-india/

And we will admit we have a soft corner for whomever is towards the top on this poll (and RCDhamaka is consistently rated high) :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/best-hobby-shop/

And there is one other thing that RC India does, and does pretty well.. that is to help ensure scammers are brought to light.

It seems like you had no idea that RCDhamaka was selling the same item for much less, guess that is your gripe against them ? Rule number one in business is to "know your competition", and you seem to have failed spectacularly at that.

Each subsequent post and PM (many of which have been forwarded to me) you are making here seems to confirm to everyone your total disconnect not just with the RC scene in India, but also with how commercial transactions are conducted in a gentlemanly fashion. 

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If peace out !? Why are you Being offensive by saying I will drag you all to court etc through PMs? Are we to believe this peace out is for real or a ruse?

I suggest you listen to a song called Gambler by Kenny Rogers, this I am Mr right attitude will do you harm, please take it as an advice
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you and rcd mixed up and called up my sample piece and did al the operations ....

Are you out of your mind or deranged in some way or something. I bought from you on 08 Oct 2011 even before you posted here that is 11 Oct 2011. I was the idiot who gave you the idea of posting here also.


After leaving your complete credentials with me including all the details of your listing description, post interaction with me photographs of the product, Your terms and condition of sale, return policy,  You still want to be in a fools paradise stating You will drag us to court. Wait and watch, you continue this any further see how I break the daylights out of you for cyber crime.

I recognize a snake when I see it. If it means harm to me be rest assured it will be disposed appropriately.

I have seen many like you in ebay in last six to seven years. Mind you have not even spared one till they have come begging to me for mercy.
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voo ...u think i am scared ...go ahead then ..... show rcindia.org what you capable of ...!!!!!!!   Seriously Do it ..Sir ...!!! yo think i am the one ...its RCD who i selling commercially .... not me ...and what you think i m a seller ...i hardly sold anything on ebay .... RCD is the commertial thing ... look whoz scared now .... and as you know i send a document ..sooo think ...

Go ahead do anything to me and its RCD who is in trouble ... understand MR. Army man ...  Salute
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And pls Mr. Army Man .... just dont talk, do and show ...!!!
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Was that a last min bravado?

You are the one sending PMs and SMSs to unrelated and unconnected people that you will drag them to court, when two person involved in the this case is you and me.

I don't have to show anything to any one. But You will surely know when it hits you. You are living in a fools paradise if you think I have wasted all my time in downloading all the details of your listings and purchases, making copies of photographs of the product posted by and you and what you have sent, screen shots of every POD detail you have fwd. If you think I am playing hide and seek with you and done all that without any purpose or motive then you are sadly mistaken.  I am in no measure mincing my words when I say I will break the daylights out of you. So Watch you will know when it hits you. Today people steel Rs 1000/- Mobile Phone and are in big trouble for it. who are you?

Today is 11.11.11 destiny changing date they say. Surely it going to be one for you.

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All this was avoidable if you had consulted, like I always consult , mostly you, before buying, someone unknown would have bought it, or it would have gone unsold.

That brings me to next point, GUYS on this forum, please consult before you put your Indian Rupees there are a lot of people willing to give their advice for free, because of the love for the hobby ,
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@Sanket: Do the right thing and apologize before the hole you're digging for yourself gets deeper....
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Thanks I am A human ...
I really dont care ... i am rgt i wont deny that ... my product was good tested by myself ....so i m ready to jump in the hole... !!! as told before i really dont care ... !!!!! 
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Can we lock this thread? This discussion is not going anywhere. A point has been made that the seller was not genuine. Beyond that this slanging match does not add value. I see no reason why this thread cannot be locked and this seller be added to the 'avoidable list'
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ALL,

I have sent a genuine working piece ... why would i lie ,,i sold a 700rs thing at 2000rs and why would i risk of selling a wrong thing ...i was having a straight 150% profit .... !!!!  I would like to post a link of my simulator once it reaches me , proving that it works ...

thats all ... !!!!!  The buyer was getting a cheap one outside or what ever the reason may be  ...!!! But theres no chance i send a wrong one .... more over i dont have a shop or anything ...so i dont even care ... but i just want the Truth to be known ....
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Sanket please stop shooting your own foot,

Exhibit-1

USB simulator phoenix G5 aerofly XTR all in one

Exhibit-2

I'm the only one selling on Ebay.

Exhibit-3

ALL,
I have sent a genuine working piece

The Cost of Basic G5 alone (Without any addon etc) is 99.98$ +Shipping
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXSG5&P=ML)
Do you think you were selling Genuine Stuff ?

That is the truth and...

Truth[/i] to be known ....

please, Humility..

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The Cost of Basic G5 alone (Without any addon etc) is 49.99$ +Shipping
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXSG5&P=ML)
Do you think you were selling Genuine Stuff ?
That is the truth and...

Sorry Gusty sir!
It is $99.98 with two payments of $49.99

just to rectify

And for Mr.seller i would like to say that you should mind your language when interacting with much senior people while on this reputed and CLEAN forum.
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Ya So these clean people are descent enough to copy someones photo from facebook and post ...rgt Mr Prateek ...u agree with gusty sir Huh?? ....!!! and that to being a 3rd person .... who is of no concern in this thread ... i mean he has the time to do all these ...!!! and regarding genuine piece i meant a working piece as quoted by Mr. Sundaram ...i have send a copied DVD ..he expects a genuine all in simulator ... why didnt any one point out that ?? Y gusty Sir ..y didnt you point out that ...Huh? and after everythign stopped you again started with posting and poking the nose ... rgt Huh? maybe jobless ??no offence ... with all respect I cant bear these adults any more ... keep writing shit i will also do the same ... atlast when i am completely pissed ..i will see to it how the heck he copied my photo and posted it ... !!!
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what photo are you talking about now??? mr rgt
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leave everything ...you can ask Mr.Gusty Sir about photo act,....!!!!  and prateek ... i would not lie for 2000 rs ...i have completely checked the simulator ...i have run all the software and then i have send ... I dont know how to make you guyz trust me ... i am not a seller or nor do i hv any shop ,,, i jus thought selling simulator a good idea ... but never thought it would landup at this situation... !!!
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missed out on this thread..!! Bang Head Bang Head

ANWAR sir can u make it a sticky in the for sale board (or any other suitable place)

i kno it is none of my buizness to interfere but i could not refrain myself from replying noting to your reply to augustin sir and sundaram sir...

@mr sanket jejani: after a quick research on you and what you have written above without much of the knowledge of whom u are talkin to. i came down to the following conclusions.

1> you are a utter novice in this field and know nothing about RC.. looking at what questions you posted on hobbyking.com
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/CustPublicDetails.asp?id=507658

2> mind whom you are talking to: you are talking to and about the masters in this field. sundaram sir and gusty sir has given 10 time more than what he paid you in kind donations or as starters for enthusiasts in the field. ( just get a background check). They have spent many times more in this hobby that what ever you have earned till today. both have more experience and knowledge you will find in other 100 rc fliers.

3> what you are selling and at what price you are selling is of no means/issue to me or any one. the seller can sell it for his price. the buyer has to think if to buy or not. so no issue in this case.
where you had a fault was that you posted the advertise and accepted cash when you did not have the product in hand...! fine there also as sandy sir was considerate... but if you send such a piece its logical to ask for a replacement or a refund ( you refused both, what kind of a seller are you..??)

4> i had a same experience with a sim dongle with RCbazaar they sent me a new one right away, i sent them the damaged one around a month late and this was one when they were just starting. now it is one of my favorites...
MORAL: u need to get customers happy with the product you are selling... even if you might be not getting much of a profit from it..! even if they were wrong and you were right.!

5> people whom you are calling jobless are defense personnel. think u dont know what defense is... Head Scratching  Discuss

6> sundaram sir was right on his part... may be your are on your own..! god knows. ! but as a seller its your duty to make the buyer happy.. ! and why did you post on 30 threads when you did not have stock in hand or did not comply to the return policy

there are around 3000+ members here and there are 1587 views for this think of your rep now...!

LOOK AT YOUR COMPETITIONS and what is the price it is sold in india. yes if it was a original OS engine and you took 100% profit it would be understandable as no one stocks it in india now( or getting rare) you wanted to take advantage agreeable there ..!!

DONT GET ME WRONG just want to prove the point that think before you act. If you are getting into rc then u need advice, help , suggestions and not to mention material. you can have a gold mine of the first three from them( even the fourth if you get lucky Thumbs Up)
clear all the bad comings and start a new venture in the world of RC.. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Hats Off
you are most welcomed in this hobby even now if you do/dont  clear the doubts....

cheers man  Thumbs Up

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wooo ..... i guess forum is ruled by these people and i guess i messed up with wrong ones ... so no point talking about this ...  hatsoff to Gusty Sir ...!!!

All i say is my simulator was in a working conditoin and i have no reason to lie about that ....
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Your father is a RC pilot, ask him, this is a very small community like you rightly pointed out in the pm, people give stuff and rarely ask for / take money for it, we crash 1000s of rs kaput, but we move on, this hobby teaches us to let go, no other hobby does that to your psyche, there have been instances in this very forum, where people came around and now they are guys who have been accepted into this scaffold with open arms, humility is the key, don't they or didn't they teach you this at montfort's ( I am a Montfort product too) like i told you in PM, don't stick to your guns, say sorry uncondtionally, refund and continue here in this forum as if nothing happened,(the answers for questions you will have will be better than what you get at HobbyKing, there people post for earning credits, here? no such selfish motives) we once in a while have difference of opinion with our parents and siblings, they don't seize to be one after the pow-wow isn't? Similarly here, just say 'I made a mistake' and you are most welcome, vainglory , ego, these are issues which really kills, I am not being sermonic, the fact is anyone who reads this would like to read the conclusion as well, all is well that ends well, this movie's end is in your hands, don't make it a tragedy.

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Dear Sanket,

Let me close this chapter for you. I can surely agree with you that the simulator might work in your CPU because "you have the original DVD which came with it and made 10 copies out of it and sent me one". Its of no concern to me weather it works with you or not if it is not working with me with the DVD copied by you and sent. There could be 100 possibilities of errors in that which we have already discussed.

I don't know how you are not able to understand the above aspect and still bend up on proving that it was working with you that I returned it because a cheaper one was available. I waited for 1 Month for your package to arrive trying to live up to my commitment of purchase. When I saw your book in the package I received, I thought it was again a Futuba case. If I did not want to receive it I would have returned the parcel without accepting it because it was beyond the delivery deadline of 06 Oct 2011.

You have agreed in your own statements above that you have sold a Rs 700/- item for Rs 2300/- which you had been denying till date. You have also concurred all my claims to ebay during our conference call with ebay executive which were

You listed the item even before you had one new piece with you.
The Simulator dongle was bought by you from ebay.com in Sep.
It was used by you before sending it.
You made 10 Copies of the DVD before sending one copy not the original.

Some News flash for you with regards to ebay policy on listing item for sale

If its listed as brand new box packed it has to be delivered box packed brand new not used one. On this one point I will get my refund.
You are not supposed to list  an item when you don't have it.
Your item bought on 08 Oct 2011 was delivered beyond the extended delivery period till 06 Nov 2011 on 08 Nov 2011. I have every right to return the item weather it is working or not.
If you have accepted you made 10 copies of the Original DVD of the OEM Its a counterfeit DVD since you have not declared in your listing. (OEM might be another who has made 1000 copies of the original)

More I interact with you I am more convinced that you are not a crook but a kid who is not acting wisely, especially after the conference call with ebay executive. Crook will not accept his own mistake in his own words.

Its now of no concern to me now weather I get a refund or not. I am neither interested in taking this any further. you can do what ever to stop the refund. you need not send me the product back to me nor approve my refund. Now that you have axed you own foot with ebay also Its beyond you to approve or disapprove refund now.

So you can keep the product. If you want I can click the cancel the refund button in my ebay page if that make you happy which will make things easy for you.  
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Justice did prevail after all. This must be a new record with me now, got my refund after nearly 38 days.  Thumbs Up
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Gentlemen if you will excuse me for butting in. The term "original" should never be used in this case. The package started life as a purely pirated mixture of Flight Sims. One dongle is used for all sims by simply switching to the one required. The software has been hacked and fake serial numbers are supplied. The complete package was selling for roughly $19.00 USD. Selling such items on Ebay is highly illegal and people have been closed down for doing so. It is also illegal to deal in pirated software with prison sentences or confiscation of all computer equipment involved with the copying, plus a hefty fine. The package involved here was rife with bugs in the software and often complete programs would refuse to run. They were supplied on DVDs with something scrawled across them in marking pen. Often something with no reference to the actual software to confuse or mislead customs officials. Simply importing them into certain countries could end in prison terms.

A little late to be telling you this but handy to know in the future.

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