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Title: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: pradeepadv999@yahoo.com on January 09, 2020, 11:16:30 PM
Govt is thinking to mandate to register drones before using in India including Toy drones.

There may also be trainings and information's on how to use and rules to be followed while flying and where to fly.

They r also thinking to penalise if we have not registered.


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: deepikarun on January 10, 2020, 10:18:29 AM
 :banghead:


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: samayaraj on January 10, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
Rule mentioned about training for DRONES. Who will provide training? Is Govt. allotted any agency to provide training? This rule has been made for no use.


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Karthick Ashwath on January 11, 2020, 05:01:46 PM
:banghead:
I would like to remind the author of the ever present threat of terrorism in our country and the capacity to use drones to support terror operations(which has happened three times in the past in Punjab where drones carrying weapons and cash to terrorists were confiscated).Despite that if the government is ready to even allow us to fly drones legally I think we should be happy.(keep in mind that Canada, a much much safer country in terms of terror threats has drone regulations more stricter than ours).


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: ujjwaana on January 13, 2020, 11:56:01 AM
:banghead:
I would like to remind the author of the ever present threat of terrorism in our country and the capacity to use drones to support terror operations(which has happened three times in the past in Punjab where drones carrying weapons and cash to terrorists were confiscated).Despite that if the government is ready to even allow us to fly drones legally I think we should be happy.(keep in mind that Canada, a much much safer country in terms of terror threats has drone regulations more stricter than ours).
Yes !! And who knows ? Terrorist could use Toy drones to carry individual Bullets for the AK47 across the Border !!


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sbajare on January 14, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
DGCA in India has a very bad reputation regarding implementation of rules. The news may flash but there is actually no road map set. The CAR is built by local drone companies who want to rule the skies and ensure that their product is the only one to fly.

There are many DJI drones flying out there. THere is no category on the Digital sky platform to register them.

Once you register they will start contacting you and ask for details and hence it is made voluntarily so basically its easy to catch once you are on the list.

I suggest that we register but do not disclose drone details untill a healthy platform is available.



Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 14, 2020, 11:32:39 AM
The current official position


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sim_tcr on January 14, 2020, 12:27:31 PM
So its official now.
Have been flying whoop only for a while.
That is also under the category now.


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sbajare on January 14, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
Under the local RPA acquisition application form, there is no category listed for other models. Only those registered with the DGCA are shown. So how does one list his model here and under which category.

Its strange that there is no proper ground work done and we are asked for details.



Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: K K Iyer on January 14, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
Instructions on the DGCA site:

Kindly keep the following items handy before filling the enlistment form:
Scanned copy of Passportís first and last page (in one sheet) OR Aadhaar cardís front and back view (in one sheet).
Three high quality pictures of your drone: front-view, top-view; and a close-up view of the manufacturerís serial number. Each picture should have a physical measuring-scale placed adjacent to the drone in order to provide a reasonable approximation of its dimensions.
Copy of any utility bill (Electricity, water, gas, fixed line telephone or mobile phone) or a bank statement not older than 3 months. In case you use the bank statement, you may black out the financial details on the bank statement.
Copy of the highest educational qualification (required ONLY for individual owners).


Arre, mere chuck gliders pe serial number hi nahin hai!
Kya karoon  ???
Canít even chuck them away - that will be flying without permission!


Title: US rules
Post by: K K Iyer on January 14, 2020, 05:04:48 PM
If you are flying for hobby or recreation only, you must:
Register as a "modeler"
Label your model aircraft with your registration number
In order to register, you must be:
13 years of age or older (if the owner is less than 13 years of age, a person 13 years of age or older must register the model aircraft)
A U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident*
In order to register, you'll need:
Email address
Credit or debit card
Physical address and mailing address (if different from physical address)


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: K K Iyer on January 14, 2020, 05:14:37 PM
This is the email I had sent to DGCA ON 12th Oct 2014, regarding their notice of 7th Oct:

Respected Sir,
This is further to earlier email.
It seems to me that there is a simple way to address the the safety and security concerns of DGCA, without curtailing the rights of hobbyists to enjoy their hobby.

1. DGCA could set up a website for flyers of remote controlled aircraft models to register on
2. Flyers of RC aircraft models can register by providing their name, ID, address, phone number, transmitter frequency and location of usual flying site, and get a registration number.
3. Flyers of non remote controlled models need not register.
4. Main restrictions can be:
- weight not to exceed 5kg
- no flight above 400 ft
- no flight within 5km of an ATC airport
- no flight over public or vehicles or houses. Rules for permission can be worked out.

The DGCA registration can be like a car numberplate. Flyers can proudly display on their models.

Anyone caught in suspicious circumstances can easily be identified as a bonafide hobbyist or not.

I sincerely hope that you would consider these suggestions.
You would recall that for many decades we were not allowed to photograph airports, something that is now allowed.

Sir, all aeromodellers are not necessarily enemies of the State.

Yours faithfully,
K.K.Iyer
Retired Director
State Bank Foundation Institute -Chetana
Indore.


This is essentially what has since been implemented in the US.


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: hunny1389 on January 14, 2020, 06:03:23 PM
Hi all, well other forums are also getting active and actually there is no support how to fill those up. We have made a group. Would like you all to join the whatsapp group to discuss the same. https://chat.whatsapp.com/Jbbvd60H3Cu2dv6DBcyKwL


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Karthick Ashwath on January 14, 2020, 07:49:58 PM
I agree that the ground work needs to be improved and that extra care should be taken to include DJI drones given their capability and the access that the Chinese government probably has to the data collected from such drones by DJI's software.(some say that they are uploaded to their servers after every firmware update)


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: K K Iyer on January 14, 2020, 09:08:47 PM
@karthick ashwath,

Before you go into all those heavy and serious issues, did you see my post about my chuck gliders? Reply #9.

Regards


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 16, 2020, 05:07:29 AM
Quite a few people have written to DigitalSky, and a clarification (in writing) given that the rule does NOT apply to Model Airplanes


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Karthick Ashwath on January 16, 2020, 11:02:19 AM
So this means that the DGCA has said in writing that Model Aeroplanes do not have to be registered?Can you show us screenshots of the reply so that we can show to the police to prove our case?
Thank you sir


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Karthick Ashwath on January 16, 2020, 11:20:04 AM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IS98A74bGbQ29qGaLt2PlMf0qqkr6C9s

Here is a link to a saved copy of the DGCA CAR section 3 Series X circular whose link is broken in the DGCA Digital Sky website and the circular mentioned earlier in this thread.It has all the rules relating to flying RPA's.

@sanjayrai55 Sir there is no mention of any exemption for Model Aeroplanes other than those falling in the Nano(<250gm) category


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 16, 2020, 11:41:06 AM
See


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 16, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
Confirmation


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: pnkyjs on January 16, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
Thats just awesome ! I think .


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: newpg202 on January 16, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
 I got different reply from digitalsky for models. ???


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Ravi67 on January 16, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
I build a hobby RC light or medium wt. Plane, Shall I required to take Indian Govt. registration ? If it's compulsory then how I shall apply for registration. Please guide me.


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 17, 2020, 05:03:22 AM
I got different reply from digitalsky for models. ???

You have specifically mentioned Drones. The exemption is ONLY for Planes


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 17, 2020, 05:04:07 AM
I build a hobby RC light or medium wt. Plane, Shall I required to take Indian Govt. registration ? If it's compulsory then how I shall apply for registration. Please guide me.

If you read above, registration is not needed for Planes


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 23, 2020, 07:26:36 AM
Be warned, all. The DGCA has taken a U turn, and are now insisting ALL model airplanes have also to be registered

Sent from my motorola one power using Tapatalk


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Susavan on January 23, 2020, 07:14:34 PM
Sir,

I have mailed them today as only seven days left & their reply confirms the same. specifically mentioned 250 gram to see if there is an exclusion. They are categorising everything as drone. Also they clearly mentioned "Possession of an OAN or DAN does NOT confer the right to operate the drone in India"


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: pnkyjs on January 23, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
There is option on website to choose Rotary or Fixed wing . While registering .


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: Karthick Ashwath on January 25, 2020, 11:56:31 PM
Registered! Its more of a census like thing,whatever you don't have (serial no.,flight controller no.,etc. just give NA. Post images with a physical scale as mentioned on the website.There is no scrutiny of applications whatsoever.(as of now)


Title: Re: Indian Govt. Is planning to get all drones registered including Toy Drones
Post by: anindyaswati on July 21, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
I have also registered. We plane flyers always play safe,we never flown over crowd, never photographed any body and I personally never faced any problems from police. Now I will display the DAN over my plane and will fly from my usual remote area as I was doing from last 15 yrs.

An instrument can never cause harm its the human who is responsible. As per my understanding there will be no more official work for the hobbyist. As we are now registered if something bad happens authority can always identify and penalise us.......as its being done with our cars for decades. There is nothing wrong in it.

There are people who buy some cheap/expensive chinese quadcopter and without any experience fly and crash over someone else's house.....and cause problem for all of us.

Don't get me wrong:I like DJI quadcopter(never owned or flown) and their digital fpv gears purely from their technological perspective. I am an arduplane guy and love building and occasional test flying.