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« Reply #350 on: May 21, 2016, 11:22:37 AM »
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@santanucus Should I take that on record that you are the "Sarkari DGCA Mole" working against our interest without any solution to the space permitted by law problem at hand because he lacks the education too for it.  Cool that settles it then  Giggle

PS : Thank you for participating and Highlighting the eminent threat of Santanu and Subhanjan type lonely fliers who do not like to be controlled and just because he does not like being controlled will not even adhere to their own suggestions proposed and will be nuisance to all with their monkeying around in private.
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« Reply #351 on: May 21, 2016, 11:47:17 AM »
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Only if you are the certified AMAI mole Wink
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« Reply #352 on: May 21, 2016, 11:54:32 AM »
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Its no secret that I am AMAI member Inspite of having unrestricted access to cleared controlled airspace for 12 more years.

I am sure with your lack of education You have even understood the definition of Controlled Air Spaces. Did not even care to read it even till now is it.

Oh I forgot You care a Hoot about everyone else.
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« Reply #353 on: May 21, 2016, 12:37:56 PM »
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Today is the final day for submitting comments on the DGCA draft circular. Members who have not done so already are requested to submit their informed opinion to DGCA by today.

1. Here is the DGCA draft circular: http://dgca.nic.in/misc/draft%20circular/AT_Circular%20-%20Civil_UAS(Draft%20April%202016).pdf

I have already sent mine. If anyone needs to refer to it, here is the file: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6UgXTZBN0sCYXJhRWhuWElOZHM

Note: You may need to change certain points which were specific to my case. Please read it thoroughly before amending it. This letter is addressed to the DG. You can also change the addressee to the address given at the bottom if you do not want to send the main copy to DG.

2. You may be aware that AMAI has recommended a draft for its members. It is available at https://www.facebook.com/groups/368147636684009/

Unfortunately AMAI, due to its vested interests have suggested that membership of an aeromodelling club must be made mandatory for flying a model aircraft. They have demanded informing police before one flies everytime. They have asked DGCA to make them the authority to grant licence and register UA. They have asked for specifically designated flying fields. This, along with certain other points will put severe restrictions on an individual's ability to pursue the hobby and to fly recreationally. Although it is not specific, AMAI's recommendations also appear biased against multi-rotors, FPV etc. Please read their recommendations carefully and form your own opinion.

3. As it is apparent that AMAI's move impinges upon the individual's right to fly, I am planning to send another letter to DGCA today which counters the suggestions put forth by AMAI. Those who support the move may read the letter carefully and form their own opinion.

Here is the letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6UgXTZBN0sCZnI0TFpiaWlNelk

4. The address to which the letters are to be sent/mailed:

Shri Lalit Gupta,
Joint Director General,
Office of the Director General of Civil Aviation,
Opp. Safdarjung Airport,
Aurobindo Marg, New Delhi 110 003.

email:    lalit.dgca@nic.in

Shri Lalit Gupta,
Joint Director General,
Office of the Director General of Civil Aviation,
Opp. Safdarjung Airport,
Aurobindo Marg, New Delhi 110 003.

email of DG: dgoffice.dgca@nic.in
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« Reply #354 on: May 21, 2016, 01:26:09 PM »
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Thanks for All your support Dear, .....
we will receive Good News Very soon.(Officially)  Clap

Regards
Laxman Suthar,

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« Reply #355 on: May 21, 2016, 02:21:25 PM »
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Good news: which is in the interest of AMAI.

Now that's more precise
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« Reply #356 on: May 21, 2016, 02:25:51 PM »
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Good news: which is in the interest of AMAI.
Now that's more precise

Not so fast Wink

He who laughs last, laughs best  Giggle

Wait and Watch. Grin
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« Reply #357 on: May 21, 2016, 03:53:46 PM »
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Good news: which is in the interest of AMAI.
Now that's more precise

Not so fast Wink

He who laughs last, laughs best  Giggle

Wait and Watch. Grin


+1 to u sir.. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #358 on: May 21, 2016, 04:09:33 PM »
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@rcindia

Let me summarize some primary term of reference for the entire fora which you are getting into by whatever suggestion you might have recommend for obtaining the UIN or registration number by online means or in the hard copy in individual capacity or through some body. The bottom line is that there is no escaping the requirement of UIN or registration number for Flying even recreational.
 
That registration number is going to be given to you only after you surrender your credentials to the authority, which every tom dick and harry of law enforcement in the country will be having access too. That’s if at all some amongst us can even manage to obtain one number with your credential in individual capacity.
That’s for all the hoopla about not wanting to be controlled by non-govt agencies.

For not wanting to take any police permission for flying.
Its not as if that this process of obtaining a number is the end of all for flying and you can go happily flying into the sunset for eternity with that number whenever or where ever you wish to fly in your love bubble with your model in that Air space you thought permitted by law to your understanding without taking anyone’s permission.

Entire fun starts now with your neck in the choker block with your credentials in the hands of the law enforcement agencies. After obtaining a Number from DGCA, I dare the bravest  amongst you with your personal endevour of PDA with your model in spaces which does not belong to you without taking someones permission for exclusive usage of the space for your monkeying around. More wealthier lineage that monkey comes from more fun he will be subjected too. My best wishes to you all in that personal venture. Its just that you are a criminal with identity now.

Even before the Guidelines were out the commissioners were found displaying their catch in the news and you are hopping it will be any easier after the guidelines and number without anyone's permission.

Most of the monkeying will get the Numbers issued cancelled permanently once and for all within a months. That is if at all you do not find yourself behind bar for trespassing.  You are most welcome to tread that path of lonesome ranger with your endevour.  Wouldn’t  be surprised that you with your number finds yourself behind bar for someone else’s monkeying around just because you have a number with your identity on hold and you are also a lonesome ranger. Law will take its course to wean out the monkeys.

For all those who think who can obtain permissions as a lonesome ranger for that space permitted by law which does not belong to you.  My sincere best wishes to you. Please let us also know too whenever you get one, we will join you whenever we are in your town. That's for all that allergy to the concept of RC club.

I am sure most of you lonesome rangers will come sashaying back expecting to be absorbed into the folds of the local hobby clubs or will be found putting your bit double time to create one in your area. Its always easier in more numbers. You are most welcome to say thank you then.

In the mean time in the last few hours left, at least to show your consolidation in the strength of the hobby community, for all that it matter if you decide even send the santanucus second representation for whatever it is worth. My +1 to Santanucus second recommendations.

He who laughs last, laughs best  Giggle
 

@santanucus you are behaving like that Toddler whose sucker has been plucked every time. So worried that someone is stealing your thunder.  Giggle I hope you are happy now with my recommendation for your second proposal.
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« Reply #359 on: May 21, 2016, 04:25:26 PM »
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UIN or not, that's in the hand of DGCA. We don't even expect UIN to be withdrawn...but merely streamlined. But that will never be in the hands of money making private bodies with vested interest like AMAI hoping to control the hobbyists as demanded in their letter...that's for sure. And for my "proposal"...you are mistaken if you think I'm giving mere proposals Wink

The rest of your post does not even make any sense Smiley Its just a bunch of bla .. bla .. bla Smiley In fact the more you write, the more nonsense it becomes Wink Special awards to anyone who can understand what you want to say. So keep monkeying around in your 100 acres rather than exposing your mentally challenged side  Tongue
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And for my "proposal"...you are mistaken if you think I'm giving mere proposals Wink

So I am supposed to be scared of the toddler now is it.  Giggle

Did't expect you of all to understand any of it anyway. For your notice that was for @rcindia. did't for a bit say you are not welcome to comment.

Continue Grinding your Personal Axe for AMAI. Good luck to you.
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Unless you were scared, you wouldn't  have written at least 20 posts justifying AMAI letter and more posts with creative writing explaining how wealthy you are,  would you?
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You are on your own personal loony trip with that opinion of yours.

whats 20 more post got to do with anything in the thousands. You will find a few hundreads more on the same topic before your topic on the subject by me.
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« Reply #363 on: May 21, 2016, 04:57:27 PM »
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Those hundreds were written before you got scared by my two page letter Smiley And then your posts got very "creative". Good luck with creative but  unintelligible writing Smiley
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Scared by your letter.  ROFL

Can only feel pity for you for your interpretation.  Giggle
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« Reply #365 on: May 21, 2016, 05:04:09 PM »
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Yes...scared...as in ghost movies. Go back and read your posts. It will be evident how a two-page letter spooked you. So much so that you had to describe your wealth, 100 acres of land, big flying machines and what not in ornamental and sometimes unintelligible langiage ! So much insecurity of a macho man over  a mere two page letter ? Surprising !!! I didn't think a puny letter can be so...terrorizing to some one.
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Why the toddler is still crying even after getting back the sucker please.  Cheesy

Given a Plus +1 to your proposal long time back.
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As if I needed your +1 Smiley
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So man...be frank. What do you have to lose for a mere letter? Money? Nah...you have 100 acres and big flying machines. Anything else? Prestige? Ego?  Giggle
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So whats the grind for the toddler now.  You are free to send whatever suggestion to DGCA.

Oh the toddler who who's so allergic to control is in its tantrum that he wants to control everyone else's Opinion.  ROFL
 
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Oh! I am free? Thank You Sir! You just gave me permission to send my proposal! Thank You! Thank You ! Thank You! That's very considerate of you Sir. If you had given me permission last night...I would have sent it a long time back.  Giggle
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Santanucus: I have never seen such utter trash written by anyone in the forum. Just who, or rather what do you think of yourself? As you should know, your opinion or desires are hardly going to matter much. Then what is the need to be so offensive to one of the seniormost members of this forum, with proven expertise, and and a genuine proven desire to help others - always?

Shame. Shame on you sir
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Santanucus: I have never seen such utter trash written by anyone in the forum. Just who, or rather what do you think of yourself? As you should know, your opinion or desires are hardly going to matter much. Then what is the need to be so offensive to one of the seniormost members of this forum, with proven expertise, and and a genuine proven desire to help others - always?

Shame. Shame on you sir

Have you seen the earlier posts? For example the description of wealth of Colonel sahab? The language and adjectives he used against me? Please go back and check that sir. The choicest adjectives he has used. Please check it and post your opinion and then tell me. Do you think that he has right to use indecent language? Check my posts. Not a single expletive. So he has right to insult me just because I had written a letter against AMAi?

Do you mean to say that just because he is a senior member in the forum he has right to insult someone because someone has written against AMAI? Judge for yourself impartially before pointing fingers and please go back in the topic to see his attitude. I wish there was a moderator in this forum to check these things
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Sanjay Sir I am halting with you on the thread.  Hats Off
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I least expected my letter to create any ripples at all. Then I saw your posts and understood that it has Smiley
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