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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2014, 06:05:50 PM »
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How many aircrafts in India got crashed due to arc flying, RC people love aviation
we know what we are doing?
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2014, 06:07:04 PM »
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We'll smuggle a hacksaw blade in a cake to you when they lock you up  ROFL ROFL


hahaha. thank you sanjay sir.
then i will never stop flying.

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2014, 06:08:21 PM »
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Just fly above your head
Anyways have you installed osd or telemetry that you would know the hight of your plane or quad ?
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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2014, 06:09:10 PM »
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That was a one time only , only valid for Chintal !  Grin
We'll smuggle a hacksaw blade in a cake to you when they lock you up  ROFL ROFL


hahaha. thank you sanjay sir.
then i will never stop flying.


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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2014, 06:20:19 PM »
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Just fly above your head
Anyways have you installed osd or telemetry that you would know the hight of your plane or quad ?

yes sir. i have installed 900MHz telemetry V2.
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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2014, 06:20:56 PM »
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Dagca can make us survive by giving us limited airspace outside the city and airports
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2014, 06:22:02 PM »
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I read the notice its valid for UAVs technically speaking quadcopters and hobby planes are not UAVs its time these retard DGCA official learnt the difference pathetic
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That was a one time only , only valid for Chintal !  Grin
We'll smuggle a hacksaw blade in a cake to you when they lock you up  ROFL ROFL


hahaha. thank you sanjay sir.
then i will never stop flying.




then i'm on my own.  Cry Cry

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2014, 06:24:32 PM »
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Don't worry , I'll send a mini Dremel , inside a Black Forest cake for you , it will help more than a hacksaw !
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2014, 06:29:55 PM »
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Devang You lucky guy!!!!! I am drooling over seeing the open space photo.  Giggle Giggle
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2014, 06:32:03 PM »
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Lol
Well some serious stuff
Their are loopholes in this notice itself so
PLZ ALL IF YOU FIND A LOOPHOLE DONT SHARE IT HERE
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2014, 06:33:32 PM »
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Devang You lucky guy!!!!! I am drooling over seeing the open space photo.  Giggle Giggle
Thanks
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2014, 06:36:49 PM »
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Well DGCA needs to get its head out of the ground . How much of a payload can a hobby grade quad can fly with ? Does it posses more threat than some lunatic on a bike ? I doubt ! Secondly some of us are more than happy calling our quads as 'drones' dont you think its a stupid thing to do so ? We do not have any kind of regulatory board which can guide us . IMO DGCA should issue guidelines as to how to operate our aircrafts , what height they should fly at , the maximum take off weight etc etc , that would be much better and sensible rather than banning it outright .
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2014, 06:38:35 PM »
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BTW my luck can time out any week , I contacted a person to get permission to fly , he told me that it's okay to fly there , till some time , because after some time , they are going to start construction . that place is actually owned by the government , they are planning to build the international automobile exhibition centre there . They say that it's going to be the biggest exhibition centre around the globe
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2014, 06:47:53 PM »
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Here's the public link:
http://dgca.nic.in/public_notice/PN_UAS.pdf

Next notice will be not to discuss airplanes in Internet space. The next one not to send metal objects in cakespace

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2014, 06:52:53 PM »
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But what's the max thing , they are gonna do about stopping us ? And by when this should be sent to all police personnel ?
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2014, 07:37:57 PM »
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If this so called ILLEGAL activity is taken serious by the police then ppl be careful while flying in ur city rc airfields , coz anytym cops could drop by and shout " ur TERMINATED"!! >Cheesy >Cheesy
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is selling rc stuff ILLEGAL??
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2014, 08:15:18 PM »
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Well DGCA needs to get its head out of the ground . How much of a payload can a hobby grade quad can fly with ? Does it posses more threat than some lunatic on a bike ? I doubt ! Secondly some of us are more than happy calling our quads as 'drones' dont you think its a stupid thing to do so ? We do not have any kind of regulatory board which can guide us . IMO DGCA should issue guidelines as to how to operate our aircrafts , what height they should fly at , the maximum take off weight etc etc , that would be much better and sensible rather than banning it outright .

you are right..if DGCA wants controls over it..the details must be declared.
and we dont have 'drones'. they should read the topic. http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/please-stop-calling-model-hobby-airplanes-multirotors-as-uavs-and-drones/
i dont think my quad can fly over 35000 ft and hit an aircraft.
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BTW my luck can time out any week , I contacted a person to get permission to fly , he told me that it's okay to fly there , till some time , because after some time , they are going to start construction . that place is actually owned by the government , they are planning to build the international automobile exhibition centre there . They say that it's going to be the biggest exhibition centre around the globe

Sir this is great. first DGCA..and now construction company.
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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2014, 08:57:54 PM »
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Lets talk some sense here,this is a non speaking order without any reference of law. But my dear friends we all have to accept that this is an administrative order & not law of the land.

Administrative orders are always precautionary & keeping in mind the potential risks. We all have to agree to the fact the now this hobby in India gained a lot of traction in past few years and people are using really long rage model aircrafts, Quadcopters with really great quality cameras and GPSs and many such other stuff & small & big turbines; which they themselves knows are not appropriate in terms of safety & security.

Had you guys in the shoes of DGCA what would you be doing to avert any potential threat to the air space of your country? Many pilots here know the importance of Airspace security.

This order is not holding you criminal for flying a model rc plane; but yeah its giving an advice to those people who knows (genuinely) what they are doing by installing a FPV with a range of 25 Kms or flying 50cc, 100cc engine models near highways (may be outside the city).

This order will definitely lead to undue harassment under some circumstances.


For those who were asking to challenge this order, they may kindly file a Write petition in the Hon'ble High Court under 226 for a stay on this order & request for a prudent law on this. (you can do only after exhausting the existing remedies i.e. sending representations to the DGCA & Ministry of Civil Aviation & if you dont receive any reply from them. Also you need to prove that you are directly affected from this order)


I dont see anything wrong in this order for two simple reasons:
a) India is a huge country & without authorities knowing now people are knowing/unknowingly using Airspace irresponsibly hence such a blanket order is the only way to address this issue.
b) They themselves accepted that there is a dire need of proper regulation here; hence till this regulation comes in place they have no option but to restrict.
 






  
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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2014, 09:02:22 PM »
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How many aircrafts in India got crashed due to arc flying, RC people love aviation

Are we waiting for this to happen?

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Only people in this business can challenge this kind of order; because they can prove a genuine loss in a completely legal business. Govt. may regulate & define terms of business.

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Lets talk some sense here,this is a non speaking order without any reference of law. But my dear friends we all have to accept that this is an administrative order & not law of the land.

Administrative orders are always precautionary & keeping in mind the potential risks. We all have to agree to the fact the now this hobby in India gained a lot of traction in past few years and people are using really long rage model aircrafts, Quadcopters with really great quality cameras and GPSs and many such other stuff & small & big turbines; which they themselves knows are not appropriate in terms of safety & security.

Had you guys in the shoes of DGCA what would you be doing to avert any potential threat to the air space of your country? Many pilots here know the importance of Airspace security.

This order is not holding you criminal for flying a model rc plane; but yeah its giving an advice to those people who knows (genuinely) what they are doing by installing a FPV with a range of 25 Kms or flying 50cc, 100cc engine models near highways (may be outside the city).

This order will definitely lead to undue harassment under some circumstances.


For those who were asking to challenge this order, they may kindly file a Write petition in the Hon'ble High Court under 226 for a stay on this order & request for a prudent law on this. (you can do only after exhausting the existing remedies i.e. sending representations to the DGCA & Ministry of Civil Aviation & if you dont receive any reply from them. Also you need to prove that you are directly affected from this order)


I dont see anything wrong in this order for two simple reasons:
a) India is a huge country & without authorities knowing now people are knowing/unknowingly using Airspace irresponsibly hence such a blanket order is the only way to address this issue.
b) They themselves accepted that there is a dire need of proper regulation here; hence till this regulation comes in place they have no option but to restrict.
 






 

Sir i understand.
and i am sorry if i have said something wrong. i dont want to violate any of these. but i am new in this part and just completed my build. i follow the basic rules..not to fly in a populated area..not near any aiport..always fly in manual mode..and so on.
sir if i stop flying it'll be a showpiece. i am not against the law..but dont know how to fly my quad legally.

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...when the govt.authorities want to bring it under their ambit.

This is inevitable, sooner or later it will happen. when it does, it is out of the reach of many who are working on a shoe string budget. a free spirit will still find a way to fly, if not in a aeroplane , outside it. federation or no federation.

In fact federation will be engaged in petty politics when the axe comes down, it is mass movement from  free spirits through forums like this that will / can make a difference.


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