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« Reply #375 on: August 01, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »
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Sanjay sir , could you please post the source ? (Link to that site ? )
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« Reply #376 on: August 01, 2016, 12:28:39 PM »
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Sooraj, good thinking. The authenticity should be verified.

Someone sent it to me by WhatsApp. But it will be on the Ministry website
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« Reply #377 on: August 01, 2016, 02:58:23 PM »
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http://dgft.gov.in/exim/2000/NOT/NOT16/Notification_No.16_%28English%29.pdf
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« Reply #378 on: August 01, 2016, 03:07:34 PM »
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What does UAVs/UAS/RPAs/drones actually include? Only RTF/ARF quads/planes? What about parts like FCs, FPV equipment, etc?
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« Reply #379 on: August 01, 2016, 03:35:15 PM »
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You can write a RTI application to DGFT to clear your doubt.
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« Reply #380 on: August 01, 2016, 09:12:39 PM »
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so does this mean it's end of uavs in india unless some one manufactures in india ?

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« Reply #381 on: August 01, 2016, 11:40:25 PM »
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I think this is a huge business opportunity. Some LHS already offer carbon fiber cutting. Why not design and cut your own frames?
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« Reply #382 on: August 01, 2016, 11:41:26 PM »
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You can write a RTI application to DGFT to clear your doubt.


Perhaps not pointing out other obvious components of the hobby is a better idea. Motors, ESCs, other parts can pass off as "engineering projects". The only issue is stuff that obviously looks like a quad/plane.
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« Reply #383 on: August 02, 2016, 10:49:22 AM »
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Yeah that's correct,  and it will become hard to get even car esc

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« Reply #384 on: August 02, 2016, 11:12:57 AM »
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Gentleman,
We deal with C.....s everyday. They are more smart in making M...y than you and me..
Even before the above circular and Guidelines they objected that the parts can be used for UAV/UAS.
But, when we raised the matter to higher authorities and asked for official notifications they just left.
Now, they have notification and they know what to do.
Please note my experience above is for import on commercial scale.

They may ignore import for personnel use.
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« Reply #385 on: August 02, 2016, 11:22:21 AM »
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Please do not think that I am trying to object your personnel imports.
Many times RTI was useful to me to close their mouth. That was the reason I suggested for it.
For the c....s CX-10 and Skylark-II both are same. They always look in one direction that is M...y

If all of us work together, we can raise to DGFT to exempt the items for Hobby and recreational purpose from the above notification.


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« Reply #386 on: August 02, 2016, 12:15:14 PM »
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I agree Kumaran sir. We should do everything in our power to lobby again.

Unfortunately not all hobbyists are united. Some plane guys hate on multi guys, and some DJI guys hate on multi guys too.

Perhaps one of us should join the DGCA!
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« Reply #387 on: August 02, 2016, 03:12:31 PM »
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yes correct. .. what should we do to make that happen ??

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« Reply #388 on: August 02, 2016, 03:18:48 PM »
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together we can make a draft and make it as a petition.
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« Reply #389 on: August 02, 2016, 03:33:40 PM »
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Would you like to create a petition? Then we can pass it around.
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« Reply #390 on: August 02, 2016, 04:13:00 PM »
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I will make a draft but will not create the petition.
Because, my act will be linked as commercial interest.
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« Reply #391 on: August 02, 2016, 05:46:42 PM »
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I guess there are a few petitions doing the rounds already with mention to imports of equipment and spares.

https://www.change.org/p/dgca-draft-guidelines-exemptions-sought-for-model-aircraft-for-recreational-hobby
https://www.change.org/p/directorate-of-general-civil-aviation-dgca-immediate-govt-regulation-change-regarding-recreational-rc-flying

Update: I just realized the one by RCI stands closed.
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« Reply #392 on: August 02, 2016, 08:05:34 PM »
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Sure, I'll be happy to post it, or one of the members will too.
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« Reply #393 on: August 02, 2016, 11:24:08 PM »
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The DGFT Notification just formalises the matter. DGCA will not issue clearance. So forget about importing UAVs legally.

Parts of UAV have NOT been included. Many of the parts have dual or multiple use anyway. And there are so many parts that it would be impossible to restrict them all. Even frames are not UAVs by any stretch of imagination. Most come disassembled anyway. Ask your overseas supplier to declare these as hobby frames, hobby motors, toy parts etc. just to be on the safe side instead of mentioning drones and quadcopters or multirotors.

Please DO NOT make RTIs or start petitions and give then further ideas to include parts in the restricted list. If you do that, they would just amend the DGFT notification and include the words "and parts" in it and that would be the end of the hobby. No point in asking for clarifications either.

If Customs objects to import of parts (they don't have legal backing) its better to fight that case to case. Take my word...very few customs officials know about the components of the hobby. Those who know are into the hobby anyway and won't like to damage the hobby.


Basically I find these change.org petitions worthless and waste of time. Those who know how government departments function would understand that you can't influence government policies through change.org petitions.

Our best bet would be to hasten the DGCA guidelines. Once DGCA finalizes the guidelines, getting the clearance of import of UAVs from DGCA would be easier.
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« Reply #395 on: August 03, 2016, 02:03:45 PM »
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Just came across this pdf from DGCA website:
http://www.dgca.nic.in/misc/draft%20circular/AT_Circular%20-%20Civil_UAS(Draft%20April%202016).pdf

Not sure if this is the final or not.

Pretty much sums it up that you need to register each and every UA (rc plane, helis, quads, even micro park flyers). You might need a separate permit to fly, unless you stay below 200ft.
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« Reply #397 on: October 27, 2016, 03:46:12 PM »
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Its the draft one
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« Reply #399 on: October 28, 2016, 09:27:53 AM »
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I doubt if they would publish the final one in this "Pakistan planning to attack India with drone" atmosphere.

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