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« Reply #175 on: December 22, 2014, 11:08:38 PM »
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Just google on airspace classes ( I could only find information from ICAO and FAA, not DGCA). Technically civil airspace means the zone in which instrumented commercial aircraft operate which is usually above 18000 ft.


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« Reply #176 on: December 22, 2014, 11:52:10 PM »
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BTw a couple of months ago a SuKhoi crashed in a field near where I live.
 I can't imagine a drone being more dangerous than that.

Not an appropriate example or comparison, IMHO.
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« Reply #177 on: December 23, 2014, 12:08:45 AM »
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Well , what is Indian civil airspace then Huh?
Is it only the place near airports and other air force or military establishments ? Or do this mean all the skies of India ?
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« Reply #178 on: December 23, 2014, 12:13:01 AM »
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Point noted  edited my post
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« Reply #179 on: December 24, 2014, 11:15:45 AM »
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I just saw this video released by the FAA as part of a 'drone' safety program called Know Before You Fly. The safety points mentioned in the video are reasonable but the FAA uses this to reaffirm its ban on commercial UAS usage. It also supports the belief that all UASs or 'drones' are multirotors. I also have learned that a rabbit can weigh 55 pounds. WOW!  ROFL
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« Reply #180 on: December 24, 2014, 11:32:50 AM »
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this is in line with the FAA's classification of Model Aircraft, which makes sense that the minimum ceiling for other flying craft including gliders and small planes is 700 feet


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Model Aircraft
Recreational use of airspace by model aircraft is covered by FAA Advisory Circular 91-57 (PDF), which generally limits operations for hobby and recreation to below 400 feet, away from airports and air traffic, and within sight of the operator. In June 2014, the FAA published a Federal Register notice (PDF) on its interpretation of the statutory special rules for model aircraft in the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012. The law is clear that the FAA may take enforcement action against model aircraft operators who operate their aircraft in a manner that endangers the safety of the national airspace system. In the notice, the FAA explains that this enforcement authority is designed to protect users of the airspace as well as people and property on the ground. Read the full press release. Read more about Model Aircraft Operations.
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« Reply #181 on: December 25, 2014, 09:48:47 AM »
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Merry Christmas guys.. always follow the rules, the emission control is the uncontrollable  Giggle


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« Reply #182 on: December 25, 2014, 10:22:37 AM »
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Nice one! Love the Emission Control & Defogger  ROFL
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« Reply #183 on: December 25, 2014, 10:29:50 AM »
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My vote is for the Defroster and the Navigation Equipment. Merry Christmas!
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« Reply #184 on: December 25, 2014, 10:48:52 AM »
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« Reply #185 on: December 25, 2014, 11:05:29 AM »
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That was good one.

Merry Christmas to all and specially to Gusty, John, zonuna  & beni
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« Reply #186 on: December 29, 2014, 04:14:25 PM »
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I think next they are  going to bann the internet !! They don't bann what should be banned but they through intrude their stupid minds into thing which is supposibly irrelevant!!

Check this video for weired banns in India

The Bottom Line: Weirdest Bans in India:
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« Reply #187 on: December 29, 2014, 07:29:56 PM »
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Why Don't the government just taking out these rules and just Make all things free of rules like Radio And Specially RC PRODUCTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And As Roshan Is correct THEY ARE GOING TO BAN INTERNET NEXT TIME !!!!!!!

one thing I think we should fall a petition in the court in Support OF R/C yes we should but every member help and support needed in that.
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« Reply #188 on: December 30, 2014, 10:08:25 AM »
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A good one. Merry Christmas.
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« Reply #189 on: January 01, 2015, 01:19:11 PM »
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Why we still can't track an airplane

Your doubt answered: Why we still can't track an airplane
Wondered why the aviation industry remains unable to track aircrafts even as easily available consumer devices come equipped with navigation technology?

https://in.news.yahoo.com/why-still-cant-track-airplane-042630617.html

Its very sad to know.

"There isn't a worldwide tracking system and the industry hasn't responded to put one in place" off course to cut corners for the sake of economy.

The aviation industry today is partially clueless to the whereabouts of the their own passenger airlines around the world and are reluctant to put in place system the technological need of the hour to track them at all times due to cost concerns. Hundreds of life's are lost every year. But these morons go on about on a media hype painting a picture of extreme threat perceptions and violations of drone operation of hobbyist and professionals well under the ceiling of commercial airlines.

Even if these jokers come out with some regulations or guidelines the same morons who do not have the required basic capability to track at all times a passenger airliner which is always connected with satellite communication and is transmitting its location are dreaming to control and monitor under 50 Kg payload MUAVs which has a radar signature of no more than a bird which neither blips or burps on their screens.
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« Reply #190 on: January 01, 2015, 02:20:46 PM »
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This is getting serious day by day... there is a article in today's Hindustan times paper were the DGCA seeks report on students flying drones..  Guys please give your views n ideas for the same as what do you feel about the action being taken by the DGCA.

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« Reply #191 on: January 01, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »
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This is typical of any bureaucracy. They don't do what theyshould be doing but keep themselves busy in messing up the lives of hapless citizens. No knowledge or vision of the department they head. An IAS who crammed up ancient history and now heads a technology dept. Only thing known is BAN BAN and BAN.

A typical case is where a cab driver raped a woman and the govt immediately banned all taxi bookings over the internet. At least the culprit got arrested because there was a clear record of the taxi. Would there have been a record if the cab had been boarded by hailing one from the pavement? But this is a great democratic country where the govt cares two hoots for its people. They are always on the lookout for opportunity to ban things/licence them so that people approach them for permissions and money would automatically flow in pizza boxes. Who cares for engineering students trying to learn and experiment. China has a booming market of innovative products created by teens who learn, play and innovate as they grow. Today every component used in rc is from China - created by young entreprenures rather than multinationals just because Chinese govt gave its citizens the freedom to play and learn technology. Had hopes from the present govt but alas.....
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« Reply #192 on: January 01, 2015, 02:35:18 PM »
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i think DGCA will issue licence to the people who want to make and flying quads for hobby purpose.
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« Reply #193 on: January 01, 2015, 02:51:43 PM »
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@gunnu
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They are always on the lookout for opportunity to ban things/licence them so that people approach them for permissions and money would automatically flow in pizza boxes.
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« Reply #194 on: January 01, 2015, 02:54:58 PM »
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Then what? At least the local traffic cop can stop and check the licence on road when you drive.

 It's like these morons who can't even track and keep the biggest flying things with largest signature possible on screen efficiently but crying fowl on the million birds flying around for all their problem and threat perceptions wanting to issue licences for them to fly.

This has been the strategies of all wielding power. Use media, invent a very sentimental topic for the general public, print pages after page and hold endless discussion on it keep you on a trance of sop opera.
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« Reply #195 on: January 01, 2015, 07:27:25 PM »
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Grab for License..
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For security, Security dept will give licene to the persons who can
a) store and carry personally, within security zone and
b) Ability to Use the item anywhere the specified ITEM ...

License Grade A) For the persons who can travel keeping materials as dangerous item as per rule, for different security zones including D-Zone... will only can store and carry the dangerous item as licensed person...

License Grade B ) For the persons who have the power to throw an 500gm materials at a distance of 10 mts or more... will have to be the licensed user...


Reason for the rule :
To sort out the culprit early, as chances of accident Increased due to pollution in Politics...

the material is :
Shoe or Chappal of equivalent, having a mass of 500gm or more and having color that can be caught in camera.


Can we tolerate the above ? There is a limitation and the administrator must apply the rule which can be successfully applied and will increase the smoothness of system, and must destroy the rule which will detain our technological progress and human resourse... Everyone should think over that.....
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« Reply #196 on: January 01, 2015, 08:30:10 PM »
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India is the only country in the world which has a ban on recreational use of model aircraft. And we pride ourselves as the largest democracy. New definition - Government of inept bureaucacy, for the bureucracy, by gullible people who dream of GOOD GOVERNANCE. Hollow oratory of netas, both old and new.

I remember that for Amateur Radio hobby, in 1985, when imports were totally licenced, import of Amateur Radio equipment was permitted at 0% duty. Reason- Rajeev Gandhi was an active Ham and to legalise his imports it was done. Unfortunately, Modi has no kids who could be interested in aeromodelling else there would have been other rules. Or our dear Rahul need to develop some interest in flying, real or model planes. Till then...
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« Reply #197 on: January 01, 2015, 09:38:24 PM »
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Dear All Please send the following to DGCA by speed post:


To, Date.
The Director General of Civil Aviation
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Sub:-Public Notice.No.05-13/2014-AED Dated 7th.October 2014.on UAV/UAS
We the following aeromodelers, fly model aircraft in restricted areas in (mention city) under the guidelines of Aero Club of India and Aero Modelers Association.These are purely for recreation and educational purpose,non-commercial use.
Your subject public notice mentions restrictions on UAV/UAS and we hope that model aircraft are not covered by the said notice,we request you to kindly issue a clarification so we can continue the activity and hold annual aeromodelers meet,where ever the local authorities permit us to do so.
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« Reply #198 on: January 01, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »
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I sent this to DGCA on 11th Oct. as soon as i saw the notice.
Respected Sir,
Does your captioned notice mean that that all recreational flying by aeromodellers is to be stopped?
Since i have been an aeromodeller for the last 45 years, and i and my wife fly RC models at an empty plot on sundays with a few friends, i need to know if it is still legal to do so.
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The next day i sent them this:
Respected Sir,
This is further to earlier email.
It seems to me that there is a simple way to address the the safety and security concerns of DGCA, without curtailing the rights of hobbyists to enjoy their hobby.

1. DGCA could set up a website for flyers of remote controlled aircraft models to register on
2. Flyers of RC aircraft models can register by providing their name, ID, address, phone number, transmitter frequency and location of usual flying site, and get a registration number.
3. Flyers of non remote controlled models need not register.
4. Main restrictions can be:
- weight not to exceed 5kg
- no flight above 400 ft
- no flight within 5km of an ATC airport
- no flight over public or vehicles or houses. Rules for permission can be worked out.

The DGCA registration can be like a car numberplate. Flyers can proudly display on their models.

Anyone caught in suspicious circumstances can easily be identified as a bonafide hobbyist or not.

I sincerely hope that you would consider these suggestions.
You would recall that for many decades we were not allowed to photograph airports, something that is now allowed.

Sir, all aeromodellers are not necessarily enemies of the State.

Yours faithfully,

Laxman sir, has AMAI pulled any strings so far?
Or is it an afterthought?
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Ashok ji you are absolutely correct ...thumbs upp
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