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Title: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 12:15:26 AM
Hii everyone . I am new to RC world.
I have FS-i6 transmitter and reciever.
My query is that when the quadcopter is idle and the error % reaches 99% . For how long will the transmitter recieve the signal from quadcopter if someone looses it.
Please help i lost mu quadcopter in fields .


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 05:53:33 PM
As long as your quad is on and the wiring is intact ( which probably won't be ) your quad gets a signal from tx.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
Then it is most probably taken by someone as i was able to get  rx battery info on display even after 20 min. When i loose my quad.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 06:31:33 PM
Which autopilot u used?


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
I was using fs-i6 transmitter amd reciever.
Kk 2.1.5 flight controller board.
A fully charged 4400mAh li po battery


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 06:42:08 PM
If I was you , I wouldn't even use kk2. I would use a telemetry and APM/pixhawk in a laptop or phone even if I don't use a radio. If I want to reduce the mess, would have gone with naze


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 06:44:28 PM
So is it right that the rx will stop sending signal only if the wire is disconnected


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Yes of course, and how do you get a signal from Rx ? I believe that FSi6 is not a telemetry enabled tx and only the Rx receives and tx sends. Do you have a telemetry extra?


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 07:10:52 PM
Sir i don't have that much knowledge.
But my transmitter has display when connected with the quad i recieve tx and rx battery status along with that it shows error value . So by error percentage i would be able to know my quad position. But the error percentage was gone at a sudden after 10 min.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 07:32:51 PM
Oh see, was your quad on sight while flying ? And did you try to fly after it was lost ie, was your throttle up when u crashed it? Did you use FPV?


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
No i was not using FPV. Bcz it was out of my budget.
And yes it was in sight when it crashed bcz i searched the while place and around places also .
The surrounding area was not empty As i live in village so u can understand . The fields are having crops at this time of year . And yes i tried to arm it and move the throttle for one or 2 times.But couldn't hear anything .


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
So, your quad may have had a shake and your battery may have ran out. I understand the loss you have got, it has happened to me too. Some fool will take that and get it to his house and will understand that it is not useful for him. Next time,buy a vtx and Rx and also telemetry if possible, if u had an osd , you could have had the coordinates of the quad even if it crashed.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
Sir , it had not gone too far .
It has hardly 20-30 m away.
But there are sugarcane farms all around.
That's why i could not find it in :(
So to install vtx do i need to get new transmitter.
If is it so then what will be the cost of it.
Sir one more query . Is it possible to install gps with kk 2.1.5board


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 08:37:38 PM
Bro , don't call me sir , I'm just 17. You don't need a new transmitter.  Since u have a 2.4 GHz tx, you need a vtx of any other frequency. Get a 5.8 GHz vtx and Rx and a camera. All of it nearly 5k. Then in the autopilot, kk 2 is the most beginner type. I think you should buy a dji NAZA. It works pretty well. With GPS. Or you could buy an APM clone and use it,but APM is a bit more professional and you need a laptop or phone (laptop better ) and telemetry to fly it with waypoints. Without waypoints you don't need laptop. It flies just like kk2 and also use GPS lock and RTH etc.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
Okay bro .
But naza is very much expensive .
I got all the equipments with 4400mAh battery for only 12000 /- and dji naza with gps alone costs 15000/- i can handle the vtx and the camera but naza is beyond budget right now.so the rx will be same of 6 ch. Of FS-i6??
And also one thing do i need laptop to configure naza for first time flight or it comes with default config.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 08:52:03 PM
If Naza off the line, then go for APM 2.8 clone, it is almost as good and lasting as the old APM. I can help you with APM.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Bro, vtx and vtx different from tx and Rx. You put rx and vtx on the quad and Rx and vtx with you  , so your Tx will send messages to ur rx in quad to control it. Then ur vtx in quad captures live feed from your camera and send it to vtx with you which is connected to a display. Makes sense?


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 08:56:37 PM
I mean vrx * two times


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
Yes bro it makes sense
So do i need a laptop to config APM or can it be done with my smartphone or not??
Another query bro. Is kk that much bad for a quadcopter as it can be config. Without laptop and is cheaper also.
And last query . It might be personal . How do u come across all this knowledge u gave me so far. U know much abt these . Is the source you tube or other . Please let me know.
And thanks for all th help u


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 09:18:14 PM
It's the experience, youtube especially painless 360 helped me setup basic stuff, then I read rc articles on the internet, we will have doubt till we set things up on ourselves. After that , it all comes to experience. I have had a lot of trouble starting up. Now I can do many new things with just some parts.
Let's come to your question.
Yes you need a laptop or pc to configure a firmware on apm. Kk not bad at all. It is very good for newbies.It is just not that pro.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
So according to you what are the disadvantages of kk board.
As i was again going to purchase it for making the new quad.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 23, 2018, 10:03:24 PM
You cannot plan waypoints with it .


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 23, 2018, 10:06:06 PM
Can u please explain it . Please


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 24, 2018, 12:28:09 AM
You put a way on the map, the drone follows it and does things that you see on spy Movies.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 24, 2018, 12:33:47 AM
https://youtu.be/KW0yCi_7Q5M


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: prabal276 on February 24, 2018, 07:25:15 AM
 @AL HAM SHARI
why would the o/p need to plan waypoints?
He wants to know the cause and probable reason behind his tx error %age. I have the same tx, the error % never rises above 20-30%.
I am not a quad guy but I know that KK boards are quite good for beginners. He dosent express the need all the fpv  equipment you are suggesting.
Why not go for a CC3D clone. It's a good controller as well.
Regards.....


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 24, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
So sir do kk board support gps also??


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: kiran rc on February 24, 2018, 12:09:10 PM
So sir do kk board support gps also??
No it doesn't. You can upgrade to apm for GPS feature.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 24, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
@prabal he asked me what is the disadvantage with kk , I answered him waypoints and gps. If he had fpv , with gps he wouldn't have lost the drone. And, KK boards are not that fantastic. Anyone with common sense even if he is a beginner could make a drone with APM etc. It's not undoable , it is because less features=less mess=less cost.
Regards.


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: Mohit Tomer on February 24, 2018, 10:22:25 PM
Bro i can make it with apm also.
But i don't have a laptop to config it.
That's why i went for kk.
And talking about loss of my drone . All person don't have a good budget like u who can afford naza in the begining.
Okay


Title: Re: Help with transmitter and reciever knowledge
Post by: AL HAM SHARI on February 24, 2018, 11:14:31 PM
Bro, I haven't tried maza yet nor have the means to buy it. I actually make money by exhibiting my stuff in exhibitions. For eg.: If I spend 6000 and buy some parts and add my old parts to it and build a UAV, I put it up for exhibition in colleges nearby in innovation fests. I will end up getting at least a 3rd prize and probably triple my amount. That's how I do it. But Beware, don't make some quad or just another UAV , you should make something that is better than the current system. That has worked for me several times.