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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2010, 08:32:22 PM »
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Pankaj dude,
AMA has just about taken birth man, no offence to u at all, and like i said, we have not learnt to walk as yet, just wanted to say that dont ask us to go for olympics immediately, hahaha. greateful if u take it in that spirit. I am not on the manageing committee of AMA, but i have pledged my support. cause already some guys here locally are famous in breaking up which ever club is formed. I will request any one who is an rc enthusiast to just support, cause let me assure u, the walk is going to be very very long, and my estimate is that the grandchildren of  present rc comunity will feel the full benifit of what we have started, This is my point.
So Pankaj, if in Delhi, one drink on me man.
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Piped dream! just to fly in Jakkur, we need earnest effort from people like Aadarsh. If people like him doesn't put their personal effort to get through new flyer in, the authorities wont even buzz and accept such activity is undertaken on the airstrip.  

Of course it is a dream for now (hopefully conveyed clearly with the "wouldn't it be wonderful" part!).  But there is an important aspect we need to realize with what is happening now.  Ever since this forum is started and I began interacting with people, we have had no less than 6 threads talking about getting organized and gaining some sort of voice/approval/legality etc for RC in India. I don't know if people realize this, but we have just had someone make the effort to actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ! So I for one, feel like we should put our weight behind this effort by the AMA (and it is good to see that people like Sai feel the same).

On the part of the AMA, such broad support automatically comes with even more responsibilities; but with whole-hearted co-operation from everyone, this would be an slow yet steady march towards progress of this hobby in India.

For one, who ever knew that certain Futaba models have already been WPC approved ? This certainly proves that getting WPC approval is not such a big deal.  I see lots of discussion around that in the amaforum board, including the application form to be used, and list of documents to be provided (mainly FCC testing report).

I think AMAI should be like 'Passport' - recognition by the Central Indian Authorities.

I am glad you join me on "dream"s, but hopefully they are dreams only for a short while !
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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2010, 08:40:19 PM »
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So Pankaj, if in Delhi, one drink on me man.

That's the spirit Thumbs Up
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« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2010, 08:55:43 PM »
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Dear Ramesh,
Indeed I am in Delhi and you are on!!!

BTW, I am keen to get in touch with flyers in East Delhi/Noida side, any help would be appreciated.

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You mean the liquid type Anwar..... I will drink to that too. Cheers!!!
Ramesh go man go.... you are doing well for our grandchildren dude.....

And Pankaj is coming around soon buddy, so keep those beers chilled...
Pankaj can you have one on me too while you are with him..

Are you in touch with Karma in New Rajinder Nagar and Kuldeep Gangwani in East Delhi??  
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Deepak (b4ggu),

Dude, I had completely missed you PM. Will get in touch with Kuldeep.. Thanks pal.

 
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WHAT A PLEASANT & LOVELY REPLY BY A HARD CORE VETERAN FLYER....

Rishi Kumar owner of "INDIA HOBBY CENTRE " (opp Plaza cinema in Connaught Place, New Delhi in my time) sent this reply to my email ........
  "Thanks for the news. SMAEI was recognised by the Aero Club Of India way back in the 70s with Air Shows in all airports every year for at least a decade. It was the days of hobby flying where a 60 plane was gigantic. Everyone flew 20/25s.
 
  Anyway till 2006 we were with ACI but did not pursue it as my father is very old now, sons have other agenda and we are too far away from New Delhi to pursue matters.
 
 We have 2 lovely fields in Kolkata. We have local permission. things may change though so its good to know things are moving in the Centre.
 
   I enjoy flying my park flyers in Tha Maidan. We have 5 flyers going 4 times a week. Twins, gliders and brushless jets. Most of all not Arfs but we like the challenge to fly Experimentals.
 
  Thanks Baggu, come visit the home of Mills and Mercury Kits !
 
  Rishi"

Hey Rishi I wish you had the time to join this forum and share your vast experience with all of us....  
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East Delhi has Allan who is a South Arican but white in colour. real good guy to have around. And u need to avoid some trouble makers. Allans e mail is allan_lr@msn.com
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The one time membership fee is Rs 2,000

I had some confusion here. I thought that Rs 2,000/- was a one time lifetime membership fee . But i got to know that you have to pay Rs 1,000/- annually to renew.
Is this correct , and does everyone know of it ?

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« Reply #59 on: May 08, 2010, 11:20:33 AM »
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I think it is a fair and pretty much a standard practice.  It does make sense to have a "life membership" option for who choose/prefer that, and something like a 10 to 15 year annual fee is what is usually charged for the same.  The logic seems to be that if the 10 years of annual fee is considered an investment/deposit, the interest from the same would be close to the annual fee, so it is sort of a win-win situation.

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So Pankaj, if in Delhi, one drink on me man.

Ramesh

If in Mumbai, unlimited drinks on me! And that is now a promise in writing!!
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 u on man, but on the field, one drink one sorte, one drink one sortie .......till .......
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India Hobby Center...... what fond memories of the shop in Russel street - Kolkata. It was here way back in 79-80 (or there about) that I got into balsa  - from chuck gliders to control line modelling. It used to be my favorite hangout. All I could do those days was to dream of owning a 4ch RC set "some day". I do recall there was a flyer also called Anwar who used to dole out advice on how to go about building, applying "dope" and what not. I do remember listening to him with reverence.......

I also recall visiting the shop a couple of years back and it really pained me to see the state of affairs. Same thing for the shop in CP, Delhi....

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I do recall there was a flyer also called Anwar who used to dole out advice on how to go about building, applying "dope" and what not. I do remember listening to him with reverence.......

Irshad Anwar. I do also have fond memories of him and IHC Cal.
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Irshad Anwar is still going strong in Calcutta.
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The following news bits are from the AMA mailing list.

1. Mr Ramesh Tahlan and other Delhi flyers have formed a "Delhi Modelers Association" (DMA).  He has also been proposed as a "Regional Secretary" of AMA.

2. Sai (of rcforall.in) has been proposed as the Regional Secretary of AMA for Chennai.

Seems like AMA is trying to include/involve aeromodellers from all part of the country, which is the right thing to do.  If the other clubs also started working with AMA and have regional secretaries (and possibly other officers in due course), this would certainly be the all India level association/voice everyone have been waiting for.

It would be great if AMA officials can clarify their future plans for inclusion of regional clubs (ala opening of regional chapters), so as to put everyone at ease and help with the membership drive. I have requested some more information about the same on their discussion forum.  The issue of life membership has also been raised.
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Here is the response from Mr Vijendar Nagar (President of the AMA).

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Dear Anwar,

1.Several categories of members are under active consideration:
1.1 Life members
1.2 Senior Members(over 65 yrs of age)
1.3 Student members


Decision on student members was taken and posted today on the forum.
Other two categories are under evaluation-any suggestion from you?


2.Association of other clubs has already commenced.
2.1 All members(List to be provided) of the club to be members of AMA.
2.2 Regional Secretary to be assigned for each region to coordinate activities with AMA
2.3 AMA will provide Id Cards and Third party insurance.
2.4 AMA will provide a documented manual to each club giving details of procedures and documents.
2.5 The new website will have provision for regional chapter accessible by regional secretary where members can post discussions and photos etc.

The procedures are being evolved as we go along ,your inputs are valuable at this stage of incorporation

Best Regards
Vijendra Nagar

It should be noted that the registration and annual fee for students have been halved to Rs1000 and Rs500 respectively.
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 u on man, but on the field, one drink one sorte, one drink one sortie .......till .......
Hope to catch up with u some day.

No problem, so long as you "leak before you loop" !!
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The following news bits are from the AMA mailing list.

1. Mr Ramesh Tahlan and other Delhi flyers have formed a "Delhi Modelers Association" (DMA).  He has also been proposed as a "Regional Secretary" of AMA.

2. Sai (of rcforall.in) has been proposed as the Regional Secretary of AMA for Chennai.


I guess Aadarsh would be the unanimous choice to Head the Bangalore chapter ....
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I guess Aadarsh would be the unanimous choice to Head the Bangalore chapter ....

By default its understood if its for Bangalore then it will be and it should be ADARSH.  Salute
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We have located the details of Ministry of Comm approval of 3 radio systems for rc, Futaba are on the WPC approved list:
4YF,  8FG,  T6EX,  All on 2.4 Ghz.
We r now in the process of getting approval for other brands  speciall JR on 2.4 for 9 Ch and Futaba 9 Ch and u will hear the good news when i give it to you.

Can you please let me know who has got these approvals i.e. the company that has got the approval from WPC.
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+1.  There is a lot of interest in knowing who secured the approval for the Futaba radios. 

The AMA discussion forum has some details on how to check the approval information.

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go to wpc site,register,login and go to import of equipment,select transreciever,next select equipment,next select Futaba Corporation (manufacturer),you will find these three listed,no other company like spectrum or sanwa is listed on this.

It seems like RC India member laxmansuthar may have some valuable input on this matter.  Here is something he posted about the approval process.

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First you need a Radio test report & Technical information Copy...this you can get from FCC site... Then you fill online application & select equipment list ----& fill others details. Then you print out hard copy application form separately & attach this report & 500 rs draft to Name of Wpc...& submit hard copy to Wpc Office at Ghitorni Village...

They will approved you application Then you can get your import license.


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BTW, I have been trying to access the WPC website (http://www.wpc.dot.gov.in) for the past couple of days, to see who got the Futaba approvals.  It has been down for the entire time it seems ! 

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Finally I was able to register, login and try to see the list of approved equipment/radios/transmitters.  The infomation made available to logged in users only lists the manufacturer name and equipment model.  The list is currently as follows.

FUTABA CORPORATION  - 8FG 2.4Ghz
FUTABA CORPORATION  - 4YF 2.4Ghz
FUTABA CORPORATION  - T6EX 2.4Ghz
HORIZON HOBBY, INC.  - DX5e - 5CH Full range 2.4Ghz
HORRIZON HOBBY INC  - DX 6i6CH Spectrum Radio

The names are as is, including spelling mistakes Wink

So far, we know Indian Hobbies have the two Spektrums and Futaba 6ch covered.  Not sure who got the other two Futaba models approved.  The WPC website does not seem to allow users to look at details of the approvals (except their own).
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In terms of import applications, I can see Rotor Chennai as the only other application, other than Indian Hobbies, so there is a good chance that the other two are being done by them.  Rotor's application shows dates between 13 April 2010 and 20 April 2010.

Some one in Chennai may please confirm.
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