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Title: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on December 11, 2012, 01:41:30 AM
best pilot + best plane
gernot bruckman with extra300sp krill loaded with da 170 and hitec 7950.. allround..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXHmwJPSYcw

gusty sir guess the inputs at 1:42??


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: AEROVISHWA on December 11, 2012, 01:55:30 AM
wanted to wait for gusty sir but could not hold my horses...!

as long as my understanding goes.

thats a "inverted snap to hover" maneuver

come in inverted--> ele stick up--> rud stick right--> aliron stick right--> corrections to proper hover ...


correct me if wrong  :salute:


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on December 11, 2012, 02:17:46 AM
u are kinda right and kinda wrong.. snap is always done with same side aileron and rudder.. but when u are inverted this ... so it sticks opposite side rudder and ailerons.. BUT this particular maneuver is done with the input u have written up there.. only change u need to make is .. u need to release ailerons early here.. and delay rudder and elevator.. and u then ofcourse  correction for hover.. nice catch mate.. :)

p.s. u need super hugh surfaces and superstrong servos to execute it in real life.. did it last sunday... gusty sir was there too!!


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: AEROVISHWA on December 11, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
thats what it is called.... check this at 2:05... this is normal  one. and above is inverted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1_yrc2tho

PS: wanted to be there in blore last sunday... gusty sir had called...  but again..exams..  :banghead:  lucky i get a 15day gap for madras..

PSS: tried it on sim just now... comes good except for the recovery part(for me, and thats the  main part :-\) i am still stuck with rolling harriers. :banghead:


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on December 11, 2012, 02:33:27 AM
yes u got it right.. but his isnt that neat.. u can do much better if u release ailerons on time..
its a very classy entry for torque rolls.. good luck with harrier rolls.. it will take time.. be patient.. n try to break down the maneuver to better understand it..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 11, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
Great video. Again, I wonder about the dead reliability of the engines & fuel delivery systems; what do they use?


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: theleabres on December 24, 2012, 06:56:11 AM
I've managed some of those moves but I don't call it 3D flying.  Instead my video is called 3D crashing ;)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 14, 2013, 12:36:24 PM
crash in sim and ace it on field.. :)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on January 14, 2013, 02:20:23 PM
'Snap to Hover' (Inverted or otherwise) looks great whne executed well, else looks like recovered outta disaster. Good flight we had on MXSR (Shadman and I) incl Snap to Hover


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on February 01, 2013, 07:42:31 PM
gusty sir .. that was brilliant flight we had..  amby guys need to see that..  by the way got a hang of  snap to torquing.. 

see this .. never knew this possible.. i think this guy is using gyro.. or sumthing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed_r5O7HYOM


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on February 01, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
thats some serious skill .. euro champ "alexander blazer"..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dCnv-CVap8


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on February 01, 2013, 09:59:05 PM
.  by the way got a hang of  snap to torquing.. 
flew an mxsr electric and a raptor at RCTC cal, incl inverted snap to torque, wasnt clean, though. on it..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 12, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
never seen faster and precise rollers like this guy.. daniel holman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_YcK7WUMe4


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 12, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
insane flying..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nno50UcElI


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 12, 2013, 11:03:44 PM
holman at xfc 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhzONeNKyMY


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 12, 2013, 11:13:24 PM
watching the recent trend .. people moving towards fpv and quads.. the essence of the aerobatics is being lost... lol.. sour grapes huh!!!


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: prateek13 on March 12, 2013, 11:33:24 PM
@shadman- I would prefer a 3D plane anyday  ;) - maybe because they are the reasons that I was attracted to aeromodelling! The quads have been there for a long time but they cannot steal the spot of the extreme and maniacal 3D planes! ;D


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 13, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
:) .. nice to know there are some passionate ppl here.. rest are busy selling their birds.. lol..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: anwar on March 13, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
Becoming proficient at 3D flying (planes or helis) takes significant focus, time, effort/discipline and MONEY (especially in the case of helis!)  :)   

People lack one or two of these, that keeps 99.9% out !



Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 13, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
+1 to shadman & anwar bhai


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 13, 2013, 05:39:08 PM
@anwar bhai.. why heli flyers always feel superior to log flyer (thats what they call planes.. LOG) serious racism.. lol.... .. i feel planes require equal concentration .. especially when it comes  to neat 3d routines..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: anwar on March 13, 2013, 06:14:48 PM
I meant heli folks spend a lot more money than airplane folks in perfecting their art.  The reason is that you can become fairly good at 3D moves using a "flat out" foamie, but it is hard (if not impossible) to do the same with a really small heli.  And with larger helis, comes major crash costs. 

And if you are not crashing, you are doing something wrong :giggle:


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: Divyam on March 13, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
And if you are not crashing, you are doing something wrong :giggle:

Or you're doing it absolutely perfectly ;)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: Shannon on March 13, 2013, 07:18:24 PM
haha +1 anwar bhai and fyi planes are not called logs they are called planks lol by heli fliers ...yes am not saying there is no effort in 3d flying regarding planes but it is propelled in one direction which become manageable to control and back out of a maneuver in case things go bad  ...helis behave like like intoxicated ppl if u try to correct in one direction they fall the other way there is no constant direction to them if u know what am trying to say  ;D lol  


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: avesh on March 13, 2013, 07:32:46 PM
laws of aerodynamics helis cannot fly, ---- gliding characteristics a favor to planes  :)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 14, 2013, 12:42:55 AM
+1 divyam..
@anwar bhai.. honestly i never crashed a plane while maneuvering .. i had couple of unexpected dead sticks on nitro stupid birds..thats why i moved to electric and gas..  may be u learned the hard way .. doing it right .. lol..  :P .. btw planes are equally expensive like heli's..
 helis are scary.. i love heli 3d ... but i love myself more..  thats why i m out of it..  ;)
do u remember this incident..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: anwar on March 14, 2013, 12:49:51 AM
I never really tried airplane 3D at all, except for hovering.  And that was easy to do, with all the heli hours behind me.

I did try to seriously get into heli 3D, but then found other interests calling, including the fact that I started enjoying training others and troubleshooting others' planes/helis much better than fixing my own crashed helis ;D  So heli 3D was put in a back burner couple of years ago.

I am cautious... but not scared of helis :)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 18, 2013, 05:09:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nQ3pbAYpBEI


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 31, 2013, 07:35:16 PM
thanks vinay for letting me fly his new super awesome bird..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNIexza9rq4


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on March 31, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
gusty sir check out ,.. snap to hovers


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on May 07, 2013, 12:31:34 AM
ido segev .. daddy of all 3d flyers..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BRXS9elbQ


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on May 24, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
gernot 2008 Clover Creek Freestyle..

thats called flying on music.. not with music like american pilots do.. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89JTkaV9NG0


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on May 25, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Shadman, missed it, saw'em now, see you at hyde


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on May 26, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
wow.. that will be fun.. i m picking another gasser to add more to the fun and making custom ailerons (40% at root and 35% at tip ..yeah!!) and elevator (70% ) for  it .. extra 300sc 20cc from rcd ;) .. goldwing needs to improve bigtime..  this time no dle.. its jc evo 23.. 3.5hp .. 1 hp more than dle 20..  with insane servos... u will love it


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on May 27, 2013, 04:19:36 AM
 interview video with Mr. Chris Hinson. Check this out , who stand behind strongest and best looking 3D ARF'S in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_Lcea0Bvk


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on July 24, 2013, 02:29:23 AM
rj gritter (extreme flight team pilot) with extra 48" exp.. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ9PmMjhW28


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on August 27, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
MARTIN BRANDMULLER  at exfc - rank 2nd
This is the best routine and execution one can dream of.. simply incredible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IihG9veERlk


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on September 18, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
best pilots alive.. these guys are on serious juice..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyx4FhrZUI


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on October 20, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4zWkH_24s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCIDQeWthZ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QljxdydKDXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYJ3fWAxUCE


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on October 20, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2vheJndXg


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on October 24, 2013, 10:46:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAqZ6sVcuLM


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on October 29, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
Amazing Synch flight..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNQ2HaE0-2U


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on November 04, 2013, 12:36:44 AM
weeble wobble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VCK6To32-k&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on November 04, 2013, 02:46:43 AM

Sunset 3d on katana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYR6Av9wFHM


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on December 31, 2013, 12:14:54 AM
Tie Breaker Freestyle  at NIT Warangal 2013
 I was flying the Home-Built MXS 49".

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuGWmBy-lA&feature=youtu.be (http://)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on December 31, 2013, 07:12:04 AM
Good one Shadman, i knew you will win, Kudos, was looking forward to sky dive with you. alas ! you had to go to warangal


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on December 31, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Sir, i got soo  involved testing the New MXS .. that i totally lost track of all the plans ..  .. This is a much better plane compared to katana.. even  does right toque rolls :P  I m sure you will enjoy it  too ..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 25, 2014, 03:55:28 AM
testing my sbach with Custom wings


http://youtu.be/OIEXwuzdfUg (http://youtu.be/OIEXwuzdfUg)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 25, 2014, 03:58:54 AM
getting down to the deck.. mxsr 31%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rphHphYNx0s#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rphHphYNx0s#ws)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: umayash1 on January 25, 2014, 04:17:08 AM
Exceptional.. {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 25, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
thanks Umayash .. :)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: rcpilotacro on January 25, 2014, 08:24:42 PM
great shadman! you could afford to move cg back a lil more,low speed translation to hover will be smoother


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: K K Iyer on January 25, 2014, 10:46:59 PM
@shadman_alam
See last screen. It says:
To get down to the deck you need balls of carbon fibre.
Honest. It says that!


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 26, 2014, 11:08:30 AM
giggle it off.. its just humour.. to get it down to the deck, u need to burn a lot of gas ...


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on June 18, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
After Daniel Holman.. Jase Dussia giving a tough charge to European Flyers..


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on June 18, 2014, 09:03:05 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH05FN41BvI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH05FN41BvI)

http://youtu.be/DH05FN41BvI (http://youtu.be/DH05FN41BvI)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 13, 2015, 07:53:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RAatLQi8m0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RAatLQi8m0)


Title: Re:
Post by: rcrcnitesh on January 13, 2015, 08:18:58 PM
Is that Shaastra.


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 14, 2015, 06:24:02 PM
No.. in Shastra he had got a 60" Extreme Flight Extra


Title: Re:
Post by: rcrcnitesh on January 14, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
I know that I was there.
I guess I posted total nonsense in the above post lol.


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 15, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Tanmay Flying his beautiful Scratch Built Foamy.. Amazing Flight Champ :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9HmhcZiiY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9HmhcZiiY)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 29, 2015, 01:05:28 AM
Gernot gracefully flying his BD-5 jet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-Wxz8gYO8&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-Wxz8gYO8&feature=share)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on January 29, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
Gernot with his Yak 55 200cc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmv6HoAE78A&list=UUNz_8eqyR9iAcRfQC3WZ26g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmv6HoAE78A&list=UUNz_8eqyR9iAcRfQC3WZ26g)


Title: Re: seen better than this? WOW !!
Post by: johnywalker8pm on February 12, 2015, 04:46:15 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=asLUgf09T-U (http://)


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: saintofinternet on February 12, 2015, 08:26:44 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=asLUgf09T-U (http://) (http://) (http://)
how is it flying with such a low speed?? astonishing!!


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: topalle on March 09, 2015, 11:40:01 AM
http://www.rcindia.org/tools-materials-and-building-techniques/awesome-aircraft-could-somebody-shed-light-on-the-building-tecniques/ (http://www.rcindia.org/tools-materials-and-building-techniques/awesome-aircraft-could-somebody-shed-light-on-the-building-tecniques/)

he he he...


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: shadman_alam on July 29, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
Devesh chasing the foamy.. some really cool shots of flat spin @ 1:32 and KE spin @2:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXMo_6Wvxn4


Title: Re: seen better than this?
Post by: K K Iyer on July 29, 2016, 08:04:57 PM
@shadman_alam,

Arre, this is fantastic stuff!

Kudos to the pilots, and to whoever thought of shooting this video  {:)}

Changing the 'Beginner' tag in your profile may be long overdue...

Regards.