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« on: December 11, 2012, 01:41:30 AM »
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gusty sir guess the inputs at 1:42??
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 01:55:30 AM »
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wanted to wait for gusty sir but could not hold my horses...!

as long as my understanding goes.

thats a "inverted snap to hover" maneuver

come in inverted--> ele stick up--> rud stick right--> aliron stick right--> corrections to proper hover ...


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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 02:17:46 AM »
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u are kinda right and kinda wrong.. snap is always done with same side aileron and rudder.. but when u are inverted this ... so it sticks opposite side rudder and ailerons.. BUT this particular maneuver is done with the input u have written up there.. only change u need to make is .. u need to release ailerons early here.. and delay rudder and elevator.. and u then ofcourse  correction for hover.. nice catch mate.. Smiley

p.s. u need super hugh surfaces and superstrong servos to execute it in real life.. did it last sunday... gusty sir was there too!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 02:25:03 AM »
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thats what it is called.... check this at 2:05... this is normal  one. and above is inverted...



PS: wanted to be there in blore last sunday... gusty sir had called...  but again..exams..  Bang Head  lucky i get a 15day gap for madras..

PSS: tried it on sim just now... comes good except for the recovery part(for me, and thats the  main part Undecided) i am still stuck with rolling harriers. Bang Head
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 02:33:27 AM »
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yes u got it right.. but his isnt that neat.. u can do much better if u release ailerons on time..
its a very classy entry for torque rolls.. good luck with harrier rolls.. it will take time.. be patient.. n try to break down the maneuver to better understand it..
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 07:07:49 PM »
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Great video. Again, I wonder about the dead reliability of the engines & fuel delivery systems; what do they use?
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 06:56:11 AM »
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I've managed some of those moves but I don't call it 3D flying.  Instead my video is called 3D crashing Wink
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 12:36:24 PM »
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crash in sim and ace it on field.. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 02:20:23 PM »
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'Snap to Hover' (Inverted or otherwise) looks great whne executed well, else looks like recovered outta disaster. Good flight we had on MXSR (Shadman and I) incl Snap to Hover
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 07:42:31 PM »
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gusty sir .. that was brilliant flight we had..  amby guys need to see that..  by the way got a hang of  snap to torquing.. 

see this .. never knew this possible.. i think this guy is using gyro.. or sumthing..
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 07:44:35 PM »
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thats some serious skill .. euro champ "alexander blazer"..
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.  by the way got a hang of  snap to torquing.. 
flew an mxsr electric and a raptor at RCTC cal, incl inverted snap to torque, wasnt clean, though. on it..
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2013, 04:14:33 PM »
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never seen faster and precise rollers like this guy.. daniel holman
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 04:21:55 PM »
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insane flying..


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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 11:03:44 PM »
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holman at xfc 2012
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2013, 11:13:24 PM »
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watching the recent trend .. people moving towards fpv and quads.. the essence of the aerobatics is being lost... lol.. sour grapes huh!!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2013, 11:33:24 PM »
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@shadman- I would prefer a 3D plane anyday  Wink - maybe because they are the reasons that I was attracted to aeromodelling! The quads have been there for a long time but they cannot steal the spot of the extreme and maniacal 3D planes! Grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 04:51:36 PM »
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Smiley .. nice to know there are some passionate ppl here.. rest are busy selling their birds.. lol..
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 04:59:29 PM »
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Becoming proficient at 3D flying (planes or helis) takes significant focus, time, effort/discipline and MONEY (especially in the case of helis!)  Smiley   

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 05:13:55 PM »
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+1 to shadman & anwar bhai
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 05:39:08 PM »
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@anwar bhai.. why heli flyers always feel superior to log flyer (thats what they call planes.. LOG) serious racism.. lol.... .. i feel planes require equal concentration .. especially when it comes  to neat 3d routines..
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I meant heli folks spend a lot more money than airplane folks in perfecting their art.  The reason is that you can become fairly good at 3D moves using a "flat out" foamie, but it is hard (if not impossible) to do the same with a really small heli.  And with larger helis, comes major crash costs. 

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 07:15:13 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 07:18:24 PM »
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haha +1 anwar bhai and fyi planes are not called logs they are called planks lol by heli fliers ...yes am not saying there is no effort in 3d flying regarding planes but it is propelled in one direction which become manageable to control and back out of a maneuver in case things go bad  ...helis behave like like intoxicated ppl if u try to correct in one direction they fall the other way there is no constant direction to them if u know what am trying to say  Grin lol  
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