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« on: March 05, 2010, 01:36:44 AM »
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i have a real story to tell, Mr.Eshwar from bangalore have done a day robbery on us
these are the price he charged from us
futaba 4EX-(with 3servo, no battery)- 13000RS
Cobalt motor brushed 4011-                -3500
esky speed controller 40amp               - 3500
Lipo charger(tahzamo)                         -4500
LIpo cell (3 cell 1000mah)                     -4000
for deen connector pin he charged               Rs300
these prices are without any tax.
when we asked bill he told us that, if u want bill 12.5% tax will come and that will be not good for u.
At that time we dont know anything about theese things, he gave a breif class about rc plane and shown his workshop. That was a 'vidyarambam' day, on that good day he cheated us. Later when we went to rc dhamaka we realised that we where cheated
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 01:39:35 AM »
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We have a bill , but that is not legally valid. That was written by Mr.Eshwar
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 06:57:23 AM »
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when did u buy ie which year
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 07:44:16 AM »
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when did you buy?
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 09:05:08 AM »
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Sorry to hear this avinash..

Where is his workshop and what's the name of the shop ? Please include all the details so as someone else doesn't get conned...

I guess the only way you can do something about this is have a word with him politely and try to give the stuff back..

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 10:11:46 AM »
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Now thats  3 times costlier than the regular LHS's themselves, for few items !!! , may be except the the Radio!!

did you do any bit of research, aka Google before sending him the payment ?

With his shop not online, I wonder if he would care about his 'Reputation', like some other LHS who recalled after uproar in this forum.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 01:36:47 PM »
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That is a steep price for not doing your research first Sad
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 12:51:56 PM »
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i think we bought the things on sep 28 2009,
his address is
E.N.R Model aircraft
35, Lady curzon road, sivaji nagar
bangalore 560 001
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 01:04:42 PM »
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we have done some research on this and we estimated the total price about  17000, and we went there with that much money and talked with him. Then he convinced us that low cost items are of very low quality and they will get damaged within small period. He talked with us so nicely and convinced us that as we are beginners he is helping us without considering his personal matters and he shown his workshop. as we have only very less amount tried our level best to get that much money. During night we stayed in railway station so that we could avoid the hotel bill and save money.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 01:11:14 PM »
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the  brushed motor given by Eswar
 was of no use. when our 1st ESC burnt we tried to get new brushed ESC. but many of elders including this forum members advice to go for a brushless setup.
Then we forced to buy new brushless set up.
the cobalt 11 turn motor become useless
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »
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Oh Crap man, this is way too bad. Sad I have no words to express what you have gone through. Sad
Anyways what are you planning to do about it next?
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2010, 02:06:43 PM »
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Looks like the cat ate the pie and run away.
But seriously guys, didnt u guys search the net for more info on what u want,cost etc.

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Anjan, thats what he says in the previous post that they did some research and came to some cost estimation. But not everyone in the world can research everything right? Wink They are beginners and for beginners its very easy to convince as their theriotical knowledge would be far less.

Shit happens some times! Even I had been in such problems (not related to RC - a person close to me and whom I met everyday as friend cheated me of 10K and ran away). Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2010, 03:18:56 PM »
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I know that Vinay.
All i wanted to say was
that when you decide to invest your hard earned money
you must be more carefully
and be more informed.
I also hate such thugs and feel sorry for these guys.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2010, 04:27:38 PM »
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Vinay what can i do?
i thing nothing.
i don't have any legal points, all i have is a bill written by him. with that what can i do. Bang Head
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2010, 04:45:05 PM »
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we have done some research on this and we estimated the total price about  17000, and we went there with that much money and talked with him. Then he convinced us that low cost items are of very low quality and they will get damaged within small period. He talked with us so nicely and convinced us that as we are beginners he is helping us without considering his personal matters and he shown his workshop. as we have only very less amount tried our level best to get that much money. During night we stayed in railway station so that we could avoid the hotel bill and save money.

this is really sad to hear, have u at least talk to him about the stuff ?  Sad

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2010, 05:26:03 PM »
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Hey avinash
did you talk to the guy
about exchanging some
of the goods you dont need
like the motor.
Atleast he can exchange the
motor.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2010, 05:35:24 PM »
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we tried to talk with him through phone, but he told that lot of people comes here every day and he is not remembering us, then how can we talk to him further?
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2010, 06:04:37 PM »
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17000 was way too much money


is this guy have any website

if it is ok
can u tell me who told to buy from them

 
 
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hi Dinil,
when i was going googling i saw a list of rc suppliers in india, in which
they described Mr. Eshwar as 'a great man dedicated to aero modeling'... like that.....
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2010, 07:41:14 PM »
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hi Dinil,
when i was going googling i saw a list of rc suppliers in india, in which
they described Mr. Eshwar as 'a great man dedicated to aero modeling'... like that.....


Even I was very, very cordially invited by Mr Eshwar to his workshop (and to his flying field) way back in Oct.
but that Sunday  morning, I wen to Jakkur field instead and  the wonderful people out there inspired to get into the hobby seriously. I also met my best R/C pal vinay as well, the day unforgetful  for my upcoming R/C days.

I later heard horror stories about Mr Eshwar from a flyer (I would not name the gentleman, as I have esteemed regards for him). Now I think my RC story would have been some thing else if I had ever visited him.

Unfortunately your case in much weakened from any legal action as he, unlike other LHS like RCDhamaka, IndianHobbies, Sai etc, compelled you NOT take proper bill. He must have been aware that once the cat comes out of the box, you won't have any instrument to get justice.  

To be frank, there can be no case against him except on moral grounds. Two consenting parties went for a deal, he threw a price, for which you had not done complete research. I guess indicative prices have been discussed on this Indian R/C forum as well as other whose name I cannot take :wink: for quite long time. I believe not many here on forum do business with ENR on regular basis (there may be others once bitten twice shy), so doubt we would ever rise to the occasion for his reputation.

Talk to him again, if not, at least take a lesson from this. R/C is a definitely a costly hobby. If you continue, you would soon forget loss of this amount once you start flying pricey planes and crashing them occasionally.

All the best and please don't loose your heart.  We need more and more flyers/modellers.

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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2010, 11:27:07 PM »
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Guys,
Anyone who has dealt with RCDhamaka tell me the average response time for fullfilling an order? As per the their website, the shipping policy is as follows ---

"We aim to process the goods (In stock) to you within 2-3 working days. We cannot give an exact delivery time. This is subject to you placing the order before 4:00PM IST from Monday to Friday. We are closed on Indian Holidays. We are not responsible for Shipping delays, other regulatory delays (like customs clearance etc)."

On the 3rd I had ordered 8 pcs of 2.5mm rod from their website. Now, the website does not indicate the stock they hold, so have no idea of the stocks they hold. Have sent them a mail, but no response.

Since its more than 3 days and without communication, I was wanting to know the standard delivery time to expect from them. Further, the last line states that they are not responsible for custom delays.. so are they importing on order or what?

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2010, 11:42:53 PM »
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Any thing they have in stock when you place online Order Reaches you in 4 - 6 days Flat on transfer of funds.

They are one of the two best I have dealt with till date in terms of economy, speed, and quality. The other LHS everyone must be surely knowing.
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AFAIK their website will show you if the item is back ordered in red! Head Scratching

If they have stocks they ship it very soon. I had been to their shop personally, and they explained me and showed me the shipping process, very fast, not to worry!
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Superb customer service and also really impressive quality.. Just picked up a 50cc Yak 54 Version 2 for myself and a 100cc EG Aircraft Extra for a friend on Saturday from them..

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