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Title: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Hi friends,as a newbie  I want to know what r all the necessary tools required to build a model from balsa without using laser cutting machine, and that too available in India..Pls mention each n every tools,it'll be so much useful for all..Thank you..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on July 20, 2010, 09:47:41 AM
Please shoot off a PM to Saikat, he will be one of the best people to guide you.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: anwar on July 20, 2010, 10:17:59 AM
See the first photo attachment in this post a list of tools used by a master balsa builder. 

http://www.rcindia.org/gas-glow-nitro-planes/gloster-gamecock-latest-project/msg18339/#msg18339

Quote from that post :

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As an aside, I have put a photo as an idea of the basic tools I use, working from the left: assorted needle files, rasp file, razor saw (exacto type), Scalpel knife (exacto type), box cutter, home made sanding block, steel angle, various clamps, hacksaw and steel ruler. Obviously I have for example several steel rulers up to 1 meter long and clamps tools but most of my works building planes is using these types of tools. Not exactly hi-tech!


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 11:16:41 AM
If Mr.Saikat mention the tools here in public means it'll be useful for everyone..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: vksingh on July 20, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
For everyone's interest i would like to share site having lots of information for model builders and those who appreciate the art of model building.
http://www.airfieldmodels.com/index.html (http://www.airfieldmodels.com/index.html)


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: saikat on July 20, 2010, 07:51:14 PM
Attaching a pic of basic tools

the flat pcs are tungsten carbide
permanent sanders of various grits - google permagrit to know more
replaces sandpaper

the rest should be evident from the pic


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: controlflyer on July 20, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
Does anyone know the phone number for RC for all in Chennai?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: vksingh on July 20, 2010, 08:19:03 PM
go to rcforall.in web site and you have there


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: vksingh on July 20, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Contact Details
09380577074/09381437643


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
Mr.Saikat pls mention the names of the tools also..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 20, 2010, 09:04:48 PM
Hello Saikat,
Where do you source the baldes for the David plane you have there is picture? I had a couple of blades which rusted and dulled over time and I cant find replacments anywhere except abroad.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: controlflyer on July 20, 2010, 09:08:50 PM
Contact Details
09380577074/09381437643

Thank you Mr. Singh!
Highly appreciated!


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: saikat on July 20, 2010, 09:10:15 PM
Hi

Last batch I got from Mike Wodehouse at Free Flight Supplies.

I don't know of any local source


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 20, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
Thanks a lot, I guess it is time to spend some....   


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 10:49:45 PM
It seems tat I can't buy the tools in India?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on July 20, 2010, 11:05:41 PM
Relax! Almost everything is available in India. Start off with the simpler tools in the picture. Old time modellers (like Saikat and I  :giggle:) worked with a Razor Blade, wooden scale and sand paper. Most of what Saikat has shown you is available from any good hardware store. Permagrit can be substituted with sandpaper in 80,100,150, 200 and 400 grades.

What you definitely need:

Hacksaw, Pliers, Measuring tape, Sand paper / Black Emery paper, Steel Scale, Modelling knife, Surgical Blades (Any big medical store has them), steel files - straight/ cylindrical/rat tail, tweezers.

AFAIK, this is enough to start building. You can add to your inventory as you go along. Balsa Planers and Strippers can easily built at home with a bit of ingenious research! People like Saikat are always there to guide you.

Please note, Saikat is a person who has honed the art of scratch balsa building over 20 years or more. He has graduated to this standard after years of practice. Please don't expect to reach his level of perfection immediately, it takes a lot of effort and passion.

All the best  :thumbsup:,

VC




Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 11:15:04 PM
Thanks a lot vc.!


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 11:18:11 PM
One thing will they sell surgical knife to anyone who is not a doctor?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on July 20, 2010, 11:21:45 PM
Yes they will. I buy my supply from my neighbourhood pharmacist. Great for working on Depron. For balsa, the modelling knife is enough, you don't need surgical blades.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 20, 2010, 11:50:55 PM
I'll try to get the surgical knife tomorrow..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 08:38:20 AM
can u post the pic of a #11 hobby knife?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: saikat on July 21, 2010, 12:32:42 PM
do a search on google images


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Is it available in all hardware stores or stationary stores?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: sandeepm on July 21, 2010, 02:09:29 PM
#11 is nothing but the no. of the blade used...simply go to your nearest Chemist and ask for #11 Surgical blade....you will get at max Rs.10
the only thing you have to buy is the bladed holder which will get for max Rs.50/-

Sandeep


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: RotorZone on July 21, 2010, 03:24:38 PM
The surgical #11 blades are different from the Xacto type #11 blades (tower hobbies and HK has cheaper clones). These are stiffer than the surgical blade. Also it is held more securely to the handle which helps when cutting hard materials.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 04:29:48 PM
Can we use the hobby blades in surgical knife handle and vice versa?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 21, 2010, 04:42:57 PM
You can use the 11 blades in a No 3 surgical knife handle .
Also the surgical number ones are much thinner material and hence eminently suited to much more delicate work and I prefer these over the No 11 hobby blades which are stiffer and thicker material.

If you go around in a good stationery shop you may be able to source Olfa brand handles and blades these are again superb equipment and easily availble.

But as suggested by others you can start with the 11 blade and No 3 handle

Thanks
 


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: RotorZone on July 21, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
xxkrishxx,

Is it just me or have any others called you a question bank  :P


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 06:24:09 PM
One can develope his knowledge by asking questions..I'm searching the answers by myself and from others too..If u take a kid it'll ask u so many questions to know about anything..I'm also like a kid's stage in rc world..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on July 21, 2010, 06:27:20 PM
Just inquisitive, xxxkrishxxx, how old are you?


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: RotorZone on July 21, 2010, 06:30:19 PM
Don't take it the wrong way, I meant no offense, just a bit curious/amused since I have seen this in multiple threads.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
I'm 23 year young kid..no pbs rotor :-)


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: HamAero on July 21, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
xxxkrishxxx,

you remind me of an old MGR song "Een Endra Kelvi Ketkamal Vazhkai Illai"  ;D ;D ;D


Sanjay


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 08:43:23 PM
oh yeah Sanjay..I thought of mentioning tat here but only tamil ppl can understand tat na so I didn't do he he..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
so Sanjay r u a tamil guy? once I visited Jakkur field but returned with a bad experience..


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: anwar on July 21, 2010, 11:10:50 PM
What sort of bad experience ?  There are lots of helpful folks there.  Many regular members of this forum fly there, you can arrange to meet up with them.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on July 21, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
so Sanjay r u a tamil guy? once I visited Jakkur field but returned with a bad experience..

What is the connection here between being Tamil and Having a bad experience at Jakkur? ???


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: xxkrishxx on July 21, 2010, 11:42:24 PM
Hey cool guys its not related with the fliers..Past is past..Well i'm very much interested to visit jakkur again but i'm not livin at bangalore..I think i've to take one day leave n come to bangalore to purchase the tools..Hope i can get all of em at SP road.. 


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: Shrikant on September 10, 2010, 12:23:56 PM
Hey Guys, can anyone guide regarding "Balsa Cement"? Does it have a generic name? Though I have built many Balsa gliders, I always used what came with the box. Now need to buy it besides the kit. Any pointers??


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: sushil_anand on September 10, 2010, 12:35:46 PM
"Balsa Cement" is basically a Nitro Cellulose adhesive. Available under the label "Quickfix" and possibly more.

Please note that this attacks plastics.


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: VC on September 10, 2010, 01:35:55 PM
Hey Guys, can anyone guide regarding "Balsa Cement"? Does it have a generic name? Though I have built many Balsa gliders, I always used what came with the box. Now need to buy it besides the kit. Any pointers??

This is the reason why I have included a tube of Quickfix with every balsa glider kit that I have sold. With the next lot, I also want to include some plasticene, but I am not able to procure it in Guwahati. :banghead:


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: akky on September 10, 2010, 03:54:12 PM
VC sir platicine is nothing but modelling clay.....(Play douh)   .......u can use puteen also for that....purpose


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: avijit17basu on April 07, 2011, 08:28:17 AM
surgical blades are very sharp and dull after a single use. They are held securely enough. After all the stakes are far higher when they are used to the intended purpose.
The best option is to buy a small and a large hobby knife at the nearby staitionary store. they will last much longer and work as well. when you need a really sharp edge, snap of the tip.
regards,
Avijit


Title: Re: Building Tools for a Balsa Model
Post by: ankitbaid on April 07, 2011, 09:31:12 AM
Never knew that with some xp into balsa gliders and aeromodelling these models can be prepared at home , using budget tools (without lasers and all)

this was a very helpful post...i believe we have almost everything sorted out here....all one needs is to search and study.... :)