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Title: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 04, 2012, 09:12:11 PM Guys I'm planning to build a quadrotor for my final year project.
I was rather hopingto get this deal www.rcindia.org/deals-and-special-offers/artf-quadcopter-completely-assembled-soldered-!!!/ but when I contacted him he said it was out of stock. So after searching for and efficient configuration, I came up with the following list: 1300Kv Brushless DC Outrunner Motor: Qty 4 20Amp BLDC ESC: Qty 4 10x4.5 inch (25x 11cm) Pusher and Puller Propeller Matched Pair: Qty: 2 Pair 4/6 Channel 2.4GHz Remote Control with Receiver: Qty 1 Lithium Polymer 3 Cell, 11.1V, 3300mAh, 25C discharge Battery: Qty 1 Protection Circuit for 3 Cell Li-Po Battery: Qty 1 B6AC Universal Battery Charger: Qty 1 Guys I've searched the internet for parts but I'd still like professional guidance whether this list is right or not. Also if anyone knows of a similar deal as in the link then please inform me. It was sort of the optimum deal I could get but unfortunately I'm not. I'm one a tight budget guys so please help me out I'm open to recommendations regarding change in configuration. But please suggest bearing in mind that this my first build. Thanks in advance. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Jatayu on August 04, 2012, 10:56:42 PM Hello Shehwar, Welcome to RcIndia!
Your List is not accurate but yes it contains all the basic components to build a Quad. You havent added a Quad Control board. Is that your innovation in your project or have you simply forgotten about it? I suggest you to go through the following links before proceeding with anything- http://www.rcindia.org/rc-india-forum/the-rc-india-gems/ http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/quad-rotor/ Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 04, 2012, 11:19:45 PM I'm a beginner but I'm thorough.
Yes that is my own innovation. I'm planning to make a dspic 6dof quad controller board. I'm gonna make use of this. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11115? Still working on the coding and frame though. Do you have information in any similar deal as the one I shared ?? Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 06, 2012, 09:35:28 AM Guys please reply.
I would like to give emphasis on the deal I mentioned about. Cos it lies just on the border of my budget. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Ashta on August 06, 2012, 11:39:20 AM 6dof sparkfun is costly.
pl go thru this thread, complete details are there. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1261382 ashta Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 08, 2012, 08:19:53 AM Ashta Sir,
as per your suggestion, I've switched to the nano-wii board. http://flyduino.net/NanoWii-ATmega32u4-Based-MultiWii-FC_1 Do you think this will do the job with alex's code ?? Also is there a good simulator for the codes ?? Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Ashta on August 08, 2012, 11:25:53 AM yes i think it will run Allex's code. But it seems that it doe's not have Magnetometerand the Barometer
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 08, 2012, 01:45:06 PM Yes it doesn't.
Still a better replacement for dspic udb. Sir,I guess alex's code is made for those components too. I think that it supports those two components alone also. Btw do you think the configuration I stated in my original post will be compatible with the nano-wii ?? I would like your opinion on the matter. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Ashta on August 08, 2012, 02:55:43 PM i think that it will be compatible. Mayb eindividual sensors also might work since the code supports this
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 08, 2012, 03:13:39 PM Yes, nanowii is ofcourse compatible with multiwii (aka Alex's code). AFAIK it uses the 6-azis MPU6050 Acc+Gyro module and people are going crazy about this. MultiWii 2.1 (maybe even 2.0) supports this sensor.
You can read it here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1671968 My opinion: That's not a very cool controller at that price. You can buy a CRIUS SE with Baro and Mag from Goodluckbuy at less than $50 and NanoWii costs EUR39 ~ $46. Having Baro and Mag too is also a +, because once you make your quad and are able to fly it pretty well, you suddenly begin feeling the need for Altitude hold, etc. etc, and you will have to change your controller. Vineet Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 09, 2012, 01:00:12 AM Sir,
I'm just a beginner. I don't want to complicate things unnecessarily. This is a project for my college not personal. So all I need it to do is fly stably and somewhat acrobatic. Besides I talked to ashta sir regarding his own " allinone " controller board. He says he'd start production if he gets a minimum order of 20 boards. So if you can then help spread the word. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 09, 2012, 03:12:55 PM @Shewar
CRIUS SE is just as simple (or complicated) as NanoWii is, except that it has a Baro and a Mag extra. Or you could buy CRIUS Lite, which is just like the NanoWii (just a diff. in sensor brand) Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 09, 2012, 05:46:36 PM Know any board that use 32 / 16 bit controller ??
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 09, 2012, 07:12:53 PM Yeah, it always helps when you're more specific. Naze32 (that comes under AfroFlight series) is an excellent 32-bit FC. Entirely developed by timecop of RCG. Based on STM processor, you can use multwii GUI.
Acc+Gyro+Mag+Baro FC is some Rs.3000+. Available (only?) on www.abusemark.com Note: Naze32 NOT to be confused with Naza. Refer: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1653753 Vineet EDIT: btw, perhaps you need to change your power system. 1045 props on a 1300kv is on the higher side I guess. Either use 700-900kv motors or <=9" props. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 09, 2012, 07:51:24 PM Thanks a lot for the reply.
I think I will go most probably go for this. http://abusemark.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=30 Please suggest any additional circuitry or change if needed. I hope you found my reason satisfactory as to why I wanted to choose a higher order controller. Why do I need to change the config ?? Do you think it might cause an imbalance in flight ?? Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 09, 2012, 08:38:50 PM It won't cause an imbalance, but that system will be an amp-muncher. btw, I don't know much abt power systems, let seniors answer that.
You'll need a programmer. (I don't know if it's USBasp or USB AVR, refer that RCG link.)And some male-male servo wires too. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 09, 2012, 09:32:52 PM I have a usb asp programmer.
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 27, 2012, 08:52:09 PM Can anyone tell me where to buy good quality components from in India ??
I wanted to order from hobbyking first but I've heard that the customs dept harras you a lot for this type of stuff. And you need to bribe them A LOT :Rs: . I'm already on a tight budget and seriously can't afford to spend an extra penny on any unnecessary matters as such I'd like to buy the radio first and use the flight gear software (basically because its free ) so as to train myself to some extent for the feild. I wanna buy everything together but first i'd like to meet someone nearby who has experience in this field or at least made a quadrotor. Can anyone please help me out here ?? I've decided the config to be based around naze32 board for a micro-copter with 2100kv motors and 5*3*3 slowfly electric props and a 3s 4000mAh 40c battery. Am i on the correct path ?? Please help me out guys. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: lastRites on August 28, 2012, 06:57:46 AM Keep your order value below $50 including shipping, use airmail/air-parcel to ship and avoid ordering lipo or Tx/Rx(both of these items are available in abundance with our great LHSs ;D). If you know someone with a hobbyking account get your things through him, then you can declare only a percentage of the real value :P Your parcel will sail through without any problems :)
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 28, 2012, 02:27:35 PM Keep your order value below $50 including shipping, use airmail/air-parcel to ship and avoid ordering lipo or Tx/Rx(both of these items are available in abundance with our great LHSs ;D). If you know someone with a hobbyking account get your things through him, then you can declare only a percentage of the real value :P Your parcel will sail through without any problems :) Sorry sir but I found your post a bit confusing. Only declaring a parts of your real value ??? Isn't that kinda fraud ??? Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: rcpilotacro on August 28, 2012, 02:49:34 PM Isn't that kinda fraud ??? Absolutely! a forum member got into trouble when custom guys googled and found the real cost, forget about getting the item, getting HIM out of it was like, herculean task (He cant be seen these days, may be after this episode he quit the hobby) Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 28, 2012, 02:56:51 PM No offence but...... :rofl:
A bit of trouble is no reason to quit doing something you love. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 28, 2012, 03:02:10 PM Absolutely! a forum member got into trouble when custom guys googled and found the real cost OMG! That's very very scary! How about a modi***d invoice?Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 28, 2012, 03:06:12 PM ^ no use.
They demand paypal/bank transaction receipt. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: hyd_quads on August 28, 2012, 03:14:37 PM No, there's a discussion going on in the 'parcel stuck in customs' thread wherein some members said they were asked only the invoice most of the times.
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on August 28, 2012, 03:17:56 PM I only said so because it happened to my friend when he ordered a Global hawk RQ-4B
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: satyagupta on August 28, 2012, 03:41:18 PM Absolutely! a forum member got into trouble when custom guys googled and found the real cost, forget about getting the item, getting HIM out of it was like, herculean task (He cant be seen these days, may be after this episode he quit the hobby) Seriously is this true story??? Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: rcpilotacro on August 28, 2012, 03:48:40 PM very,
written apology, credit card transaction details, travel of more than 500 kms twice, poor chappie went through a lot, left hobby or not is an assumption, however he is not active on the forum Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: satyagupta on August 28, 2012, 03:54:12 PM scary...
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: lastRites on August 28, 2012, 07:53:28 PM Then I got to start declaring the full value from now :P
I have no qualms about paying any taxes or such where they are due but the customs guys create trouble if they see a high value item. Then there is the post-office where sometimes things go missing if they are expensive.. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on September 03, 2012, 10:28:54 PM Well here is my final configuration.
Qc 450 frame Emax motors http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_93&products_id=1071 And 50 amps hobbyking redbrick esc from hobby sea props slow fly electric 1045 / 0947 Battery 5000mah 3s lipo http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-sl5000-3s1p-20c-3333.html The control board is naze 32 multi wii free flight controller. If its not too much trouble, I'd like to ask you to check this board http://abusemark.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=38 Should I order it from here ?? I wanted a review before starting anything Regards, Shehwar. Admin Note: Links fixed. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on September 04, 2012, 11:05:31 AM Guys please reply I desperately need to get started
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: satyagupta on September 04, 2012, 11:10:19 AM Can you fix the broken links please...
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on September 05, 2012, 06:38:43 PM Which links ??
I am able to use all. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on November 12, 2012, 06:42:16 PM Here is the screenshot of my problem as you can see i am unable to declare lesser value on the site.
Even after registering. Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: paladugu_sujith on November 12, 2012, 07:27:55 PM u dont need to.. for 27 $ u wont be charged customs. only over 2000 rs is wht u will be charged.
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on November 12, 2012, 07:43:14 PM That is just a sample. The point is that i am unable to use the declaration facility.
My actual order is well over a 100$. :'( Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: paladugu_sujith on November 12, 2012, 07:44:22 PM i think first order in hk has to be a full value declaration.
Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: Shehwar on November 12, 2012, 07:49:18 PM :banghead:
can you imagine what problems i'll go thru ??? I ordered my motors & Simon K firmware ESC from RCTIMER. I had declared a value of 40$ and they charged me 24.71% customs . The same on 126.79$ is 31$ approx 2k Title: Re: Require following parts to build my first quadcopter Post by: paladugu_sujith on November 12, 2012, 10:06:14 PM true. but the easy way is to order small amounts initially .. may be 1 motor and 1 esc . for ur quad.. and the second order with the remaining.. with low declared value.
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