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RC Baazar => Wanted => Topic started by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:27:35 AM



Title: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
holidays have come
and i wanted these for my first 26'' thermocol plane.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 03, 2011, 10:34:35 AM
Same for me! :)


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:37:18 AM
so i should modify my post wanted 2*(motor+esc+servo+batry)  :giggle:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 03, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Good one!  :giggle:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:41:09 AM
i am wondering there are guys who have tons of planes and rc stuff,cant they sell there few items like tiny 9 gram servos,goshhh :giggle:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: raghav23 on June 03, 2011, 10:44:09 AM
You both should probably take a look at these posts:

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/motors-metal-gear-servos-ecs-props/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/motor-esc-battery-for-sale/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/some-spare-items-for-sale!!/


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 03, 2011, 10:45:17 AM
i am wondering there are guys who have tons of planes and rc stuff,cant they sell there few items like tiny 9 gram servos,goshhh :giggle:
:giggle::giggle::giggle:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:52:57 AM
You both should probably take a look at these posts:

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/motors-metal-gear-servos-ecs-props/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/motor-esc-battery-for-sale/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/some-spare-items-for-sale!!/

thankyou very much for the effort
1st link = i think he is selling brand new so prices are very high .
2nd link = i have taked with him he sold that.
3link = i have gone through some of them , nibody rplied yet.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: globalmilind on June 03, 2011, 11:58:07 AM
Hi guys, I have some stuff which I hope can be of good use to you!

I have:
TURNIGY 30A Brushed ESC
380A brushed motor
3mm Prop saver w/ band
AAA 8 Cell NiMH pack

So if you think any of these items are useful to you, then drop me a message!
I can mail you pictures of all these items... All are in perfect condition! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 03, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
What would be the cost for 'TURNIGY 30A Brushed ESC' + '380A brushed motor'?


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: kartikmadhira on June 03, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
380A motor and 30 A ESC?


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: iamahuman on June 03, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
I guess he meant a 380 size motor.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 03:36:12 PM
swapnil dont let our post down,keep it up man


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 03, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Vineet, have you checked Anam's and V.K.Singh's websites? They seem to have good stuff and prices.

I ordered some stuff from V.K (rcelectro) the day before (1 Jun) and got it an hour ago!
Good packaging and awesome shipping speed! Good job V.K sir, keep it up!   :goodjob: :bow:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 03:56:35 PM
swapnil i live in delhi may it will take 1 or 2 days to reah, i willcheck their websites.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:29:46 PM
bumping


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: VC on June 03, 2011, 10:46:16 PM
If you could post a picture of the model that you are trying to build then maybe people would get a better idea of exactly what you require. The '380' motor is creating some confusion. Do you want to make it brushed or b/l? In that case the ESC will also have to be compatible. I have dealt with V.K. and Anam and their service is above par.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 10:58:56 PM
vc sir  , where were you all the time , i am getting irritated , help sir.


from the starting , when i msg you for that radio , after that i brought it now it is in the way spend whole budget on it , now tight on budget , but still have to buy a stuff , actually there is no plane pnly the thermocol good quality comes in the packing of a near by halwai fridge is lying around on roof and hope in my mind, i just want to build a plane which is not so small may be around 26 inch , thats i know.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: VC on June 03, 2011, 11:12:46 PM
Whoa there, at your service! Consult Sundaram He has successfully built a RC plane from fridge packing thermocole and flown it.

Check this site. You will get all the plans / designs that you need.

http://www.spadtothebone.com/freeplans.htm (http://www.spadtothebone.com/freeplans.htm)

Enjoy! :thumbsup:

Relax, sab theek ho jayega!

p.s. Frustration / irritation are integral parts of this hobby. ;D


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: azhaguvel on June 03, 2011, 11:17:47 PM
Wow vineet. Have some sim training before flying a scratch build.

What are you trying to build? A high winger is the best for a begginer. but what are you trying with 21" wing span ???


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
jaldi hona chaiye na sir , ok i have talked with him he is a great guy , right now taking with him harsha , for the first time i am taking with south indians , they are realy relaxed and helping people than us man.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 03, 2011, 11:27:15 PM
Wow vineet. Have some sim training before flying a scratch build.

What are you trying to build? A high winger is the best for a begginer. but what are you trying with 21" wing span ???


i mean to say that plane should look wider , 21' is the length of wing, sory for my techincal knowledge ,


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 04, 2011, 07:01:45 AM
...now it is in the way spend whole budget on it , now tight on budget , but still have to buy a stuff , actually there is no plane pnly the thermocol ...
jaldi hona chaiye na sir ...

Vineet, friend, I started the same way 2 years ago. Bought a 6ch chinese radio (E-sky) without giving much thought to anything else as I was too exited about starting with this hobby. But, the lack of reading and knowledge just led to more frustration and disappointment.

I don't know how much you've read and researched, but like the seniors would say, go through loads of tutorials and build logs again and again. It's really boring to read sometimes when you just want to get stuff and start building. And after reading, there's planning which takes as much time and patience.
Of course, there's also the other way: get stuff - put it together -start flying...if you are bursting to get in air!
Look, I haven't built a plane yet and don't know if it's appropriate for me to tell you all this (as we are being guided by seniors here), I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Really looking forward to your first build!
Good Luck!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 04, 2011, 07:10:46 AM
Wow vineet. Have some sim training before flying a scratch build...
I agree. I started with 'F-22 Raptor' when I was a school-kid. Now, I can do crazy things in RealFlight!
Sims can be really helpful. You not only get familiarized with the control surfaces, but also get to know the various situations that can lead to a crash. And then there's all the awesome tricks and stunts you can learn without harming your first bird.
Again, this is a beginner's point of view. I'm sure pros will till you similar things. 


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 04, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
hey swapnil actualy your point is right , hurry could led to more frustration and disappointmnt ,
but i was disapointed by my self as i have waited for almost 2 year to come in this hobby .


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: azhaguvel on June 04, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
Not only frustration and disappointment, It just needs one nice crash to trash your motor and servos. I was actually hovering a 3d plane in sim before I actually tried to fly my AXN floater but still it took lot of crashes.

Between tell us what you are trying to build
wingspan is the length of the wing from one tip to the other tip. 21" is very small, thats why wondering what you are trying to build.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 04, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
@azhaguvel: Sir, would a 50 in span be O.K for a 243 Watt BLDC (A2836-8) ??


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: azhaguvel on June 04, 2011, 02:49:54 PM
Hehehe I am not a pro to tell everything from a motor spec. It also depends on the plane type you are trying to build. gusty sir is the wikipedia you can contact. Also VC sir :D.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: Swapnil on June 04, 2011, 02:54:07 PM
Hmm, Gusty sir doesn't seem to be online these days. Will try VC sir...


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 04, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
have calculated all the things please  guide me anywhere , if it is necessary

auw = 600 gram


{
so  motor should be = 1.5 * auw=  800 to 900 gram thrust. , max amp draw=25 amp

prop size =8*5 or equivalent

for esc =30 amp.

battery=  (2200mAH 20C Lipo Battery):   2.200AH  X  20C = 44.00Amps Max Constant
}


is all the calculations are ok for that weight ,

plz suggest


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 05, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
ok is there is any way to buy electronics from china , i have heard that it take less time than hobby king.  indian lhs are beyond my budget.


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 09, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
ok now read and got all the litrature required for a plane to fly coming up with a plan ( 300 using coro )as it is the secure and cost effective for me , i want all these for him ,

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/rcpowers-extra-300-using-3mm-coro/25/


plz pm me if anybody have the required electronics to sell


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: PankajC on June 09, 2011, 07:47:22 PM
vineet your calculations are way off target....

for a 600 gm plane, you dont require more than 100w which translates to 8-10amps for a 3cell. Check out my trainer at this link
http://www.rcindia.org/beginners-zone/i-finally-got-to-build-and-fly-a-pusher-trainer/msg62703/#msg62703

the cruising current is much less in my case about 47gm for a 500gm bird




Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: prateek13 on June 09, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
 :iagree:


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 09, 2011, 11:48:08 PM
what the calculations will do when there is no electronics


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: PankajC on June 10, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
well you have to consider these. If you are scratch building, consider the weight of electronics first. The eight of lipo, motor, prop, esc, landing gear, servo all need to be taken into account in addition to the construction material to arrive at a all up weight.

So you see, the wattage calculation and electronics required may require a couple of iterations to come up with a guideline on what your requirements are


Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: vineet on June 10, 2011, 10:25:08 AM
i am building a plan which has taken up by many builder before, so i am using the same electroics they have used , thats why i dont think there is any chance of miscalculations , and



Title: Re: used (motor + esc +batery+prop +servo) for my first plane.
Post by: PankajC on June 10, 2011, 05:13:28 PM
I am not sure what model are you building so cannot comment.
However, for normal slow-fly highwinger type of a trainer, 60W per 500 grams of all up weight is considered safe, then we begin to multiply for different flying types like acrobatic , 3D etc.

I was looking at the caption as the requirements being for your first plane, hence then assumption was that you might be attempting a trainer type of a model.