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Title: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: kshitij saa on October 19, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Hi ,


want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Price should be up to rs 10000 or some more or less
Need it up to this month end
Ca


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: kshitij saa on October 19, 2014, 01:29:16 PM
Sry for the mistake  should carry up to  1 kg


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: chintal on October 19, 2014, 03:23:16 PM
Its not possible in 10,000  either increase you budget or decrease the payload


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: rohan123 on October 20, 2014, 05:38:02 PM
agree with chintal sir ,you would need lower kv motors with bigger props to give 1 kg of extra thrust ,so if the quad itself is 1 kg you would need atleast 4 kg of thrust which you will get by lower kv motors that are quite expensive ,only the motor and ESC will be worth 10k so as said by chintal sir ,either increase your budget or decrease your payload
regards
rohan


Title: Re:
Post by: santhosh-r on October 21, 2014, 01:25:33 PM
+1 chintal


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 25, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
well u can make a quad having 1 kg payload u need to increase ur budget to 15k and u will get a quad with kk2.1 or multiwii v2.5 u can use any of the two.......


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 01:02:25 PM
@kshitij i have a combo for u bt u will have to assemble it urself i can suggest u some good websites to buy the parts they will give u a 1kg payload hopefully they give u a payload if the mentioned specs are correct.....
base website to buy are : www.rcbazar.com (http://) (http://) (http://) and www.rcmumbai.com (http://) (http://) (http://) and www.quadkopters.com (http://) (http://) (http://)
frame q450 - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1823-hiller-q450-pcb-version-kit.aspx (http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1823-hiller-q450-pcb-version-kit.aspx)
270gm
motors odin -http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1479-odin-3130-kv1000-thrust-800-gms.aspx
800gm thrust each on 845 props
props -http://rcmumbai.com/index.php/product/0845-plastic-propeller-pair/
kk 2.1 board - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/2332-kk21-multi-rotor-lcd-flight-control-board.aspx (http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/2332-kk21-multi-rotor-lcd-flight-control-board.aspx)
lipo battery - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1266-wolfpack-2200mah-25c-111v.aspx (http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1266-wolfpack-2200mah-25c-111v.aspx)
2200mah 25 c
esc - http://www.quadkopters.com/product/simonk-esc-30a/ (http://www.quadkopters.com/product/simonk-esc-30a/)

well this are enough to give a payload of 1kg and more i suppose

motors- 800 each so 3200/-
esc-775 each     so   3100/-
kk2.1 -                   2400/-
lipo-                       1000/- (with delivery)
frame -                   1190/-
props-                      500/-
total -                    11390/-
well u can save the money of frame if u manage to make it with wooden booms we get into local stores it will save 1190 and thus ur budget for electronics would be 10200 which is ur actual budget u want ur quad with 1 kg payload think on it and go with it if u feel its right idk much bt am sure u will get around 1kg payload thrust as the quad will weight around 900 to 800 gms so u will have enough thrust to fly with payload total thrust u get is 3200gm
 -- u can go for a smaller size frame too which would reduce ur cost if u dnt wish to spend much money on it..
** note that the motors denote that they give thrust on specific size of propellors so keep the same props for the quad else u wont get the required thrust 800gm thrust is enough by a motor :) i havent checked the motors bt rcbazar.com would have checked them so thrust them these all websites and dealers are thrustworthy and provide good RC products....
** seniors please guide if i may be going wrng somewhere ...
thank u


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: rcrcnitesh on October 29, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
cyberhack sir he can have a better quad for that price.
the x525 kit from quadkopters.com is cheaper.


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
yes sir i knw bt he said he wants a 1kg payload so i configured it as a mixture of all components obvs. he can have a rtf and go with it no prb bt the payload ?


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
@nitesh can u please provide the link to the kit u mentioned ?


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 03:07:17 PM
are u talking abt this http://www.quadkopters.com/product/rtf-kit-and-frames/arf-525-kit-with-kk-2-1-controller/ (http://www.quadkopters.com/product/rtf-kit-and-frames/arf-525-kit-with-kk-2-1-controller/) well i have gone through this combo bt i thought it wont be able to give kshitij 1kg payload hence i opted for the odin motors and similarly searched the components wat @kshitij can do is he can buy some similar combo without motors and use those odin 800gm thrust motors for getting the 1kg thrust ................ @nitesh thank u ...............


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: rcrcnitesh on October 29, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
Actually even the motors in that kit can produce 800gm or more thrust easily.


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: rcrcnitesh on October 29, 2014, 03:20:00 PM
they produce 820 gms with 1047 props.


Title: Re:
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 03:44:46 PM
Nice then kshitij go with it


Title: Re:
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
Thank u nitesh :)


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: sooraj.palakkad on October 29, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
@cyberhack, I don't understand how the build you mentioned above could lift AUW of 1.9Kg (900Gm quad+1Kg Payload). The motors individual thrust is 800gm at full throttle.
With those 4 motors one can lift only 1.6Kg AUW - (Not 4x800=3200G) That is the thrust calculation for Quad.
            With that set up , The AUW should be less than 1.6Kg, The quad lifts this only at fullthrottle too....!!


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
3200gm thrust enough for the quad to be light enough for the thrust to pick a 1kg object not actually practical bt it works for about 800 gm object on it ............hope so ,,, u r right 1.6 auw bt its approxly can take the object for its application bdw if he needs to pick a more heavy object he will have to increase the budget obvs it is in 10k its the config that will give the max. output . thank u


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: akhilzid on October 29, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
@ cyberhack, 800g/motor is maximum that can achieve in optimum conditions, just calculate with 75% of its thrust and that is peek value.

so 600*4 = 2400 thrust maximum and carry 2000g when the quad in level
but if its tilted or applying pitch or roll the case is different and the direction of force will change from the direction of gravitational force. and this should fail.    


Title: Re: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 06:45:23 PM
Yeah guys I get it so this quad won't be giving 1kg payload right.. ;p pls guide him to get a 1 kg payload may be be should try half kg for start.... Thanks.to both


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: sooraj.palakkad on October 29, 2014, 07:19:35 PM
Key rule for quadcopter   :

For 4 motors with X Gm  thrust each

The quadcopter max AUW with these motors is calculated with ,  ((4 * X) / 2 )
Or here in this case, each motor have full throttle thrust of 800Gm, So the AUW of setup should be max : (4*800)/2 = 1.6Kg  .



Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: sooraj.palakkad on October 29, 2014, 07:21:16 PM
For achieving a quad with 1Kg payload one should at least use motors with 1Kg thrust each  . (of course for a stable build.)


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: cyberhack on October 29, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
ohh yeah @suraj thanks yar i really forgt the basics :P i was thinking somethng else :P thanks a lot :) i feel lol at me hhehehehe bdw give him a config na and also a budget kinda other people in search of such quads will also get help from it ... :)


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: rcrcnitesh on October 30, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
He also needs a radio as he doesn't has one.
His budget of 10k is including radio.


Title: Re:
Post by: cyberhack on October 30, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
Simple 4 channel radio available at lamington  at 1500/- when I enquired long back Idk if it's still der


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: sooraj.palakkad on October 30, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
He can buy A2212 13T 1000Kv motors and  SimonK 30A ESC from china through Ebay
For a hexacopter, 6 motors + 6ESCs will cost around 5000, when he try bidding with real interest !!
For flightcontroller  Use any lowcost ones, or for better stability at lowest cost, use multiwii.
Batteries can be sourced from china based hobbysites or Ebay.
The transmitter by any means , won't fit in this budget, unless he get good used offers.

Why I suggest hexacopter ? , more thrust with low cost motors , and more flight stability while carrying heavy payload.


Title: Re:
Post by: cyberhack on October 31, 2014, 01:23:31 AM
If u wish to buy multiwii

http://www.rcindia.org/index.php?topic=18651.msg200677.msg#200677


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: hirenchristin on November 18, 2016, 03:06:40 PM
i have a 50,000 thousand in my budget and i want to 1.0kg or more payload carrying capacity to in hexacopter for flower droping work


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: hirenchristin on November 18, 2016, 03:14:55 PM
and i want to do this early coz i want this much early as posible...pls contact me or whatsup me on my cell no. 8000793377


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: santhosh-r on November 18, 2016, 04:54:45 PM
In 50k - 1 kg payload should be fairly easy. Try this http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/hobbyking-predator-650-quadcopter-plug-and-fly/msg263299/#msg263299, but not sure of the payload, verify the payload first.


Title: Re: want a quad having upto 1.0 payload carrying capacity
Post by: parichya.gautam on December 25, 2016, 03:57:47 PM
Dont deal with this CHEAT. Still hasn't paid 8k worth of stuff which i ordered for him in good faith and returned the others after using and damaging the products esp. the Gimbal i sent.

Stay away. He and his family, everyone involved in scamming trusting people like me.