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Title: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: maahinberi on May 22, 2014, 09:43:45 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-eatery-delivers-pizza-using-a-drone/articleshow/35440489.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-eatery-delivers-pizza-using-a-drone/articleshow/35440489.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral)


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
AWESOME!  :o  :bow:


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: sandeepm on May 22, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Mumbai Police, ATC, DGCA, NSC, defense establishment and other will definitely appreciate this.... {:)}


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: topalle on May 22, 2014, 02:33:10 PM
I was also going to share this...I saw it on Facebook :P :giggle:


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: punty on May 22, 2014, 03:21:30 PM
Comeon who from our forum did this? Comeon be honest.... ? :)) confession time :P


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
On second thoughts, is this really practical? It certainly is a fun way of delivering stuff. But there are a lot of risks involved. It might not even be economical.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: punty on May 22, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
@Swapnil... Though this method is good for Marketing / Advertizement and promotion. Imagine the sales would have boosted by now..Everyone calling the pizzeria to deliver their order using drone too..


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 03:39:35 PM
Undoubtedly good for advertising and promotion. Many more possibilities than airplanes. But delivering to everyone isn't practical at all.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: girishsarwal on May 22, 2014, 04:52:28 PM
Was on the front page of TOI Delhi this morning.
But they claimed it was not a 'commercial delivery' as the pizza was delivered to the CEOs friend,
Said 'commercial delivery' of goods via drones is not allowed in India.

http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx?eid=31808&articlexml=Been-there-drone-that-Pizza-air-delivered-22052014001052 (http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx?eid=31808&articlexml=Been-there-drone-that-Pizza-air-delivered-22052014001052)


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: SideWinder on May 23, 2014, 10:44:28 AM
Follow Up:

Mumbai Police to seek explanation on use of drone for pizza delivery

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-police-to-seek-explanation-on-use-of-drone-for-pizza-delivery/473586-3-237.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-police-to-seek-explanation-on-use-of-drone-for-pizza-delivery/473586-3-237.html)


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on May 23, 2014, 11:45:55 AM
Its not a drone people misunderstand our hobby and type anything in news


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: topalle on May 23, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
Thats a thing people need to be educated about...
Why not we members write to news-channels?


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on May 23, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
Do you really think this would happen? they just write or talk on assumptions.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on May 23, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
They mention it in a very wrong manner
They know what it is and they themselves might be using it for certain aerial shoots
But if they don't call it a drone the news is not interesting enough
Police never knew about it they came to know from news papers
It was pure advertisement of the restaurant
Thats what i make out of it.......


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on May 23, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
In mumbai itself many marriages,movies,stage shows have multirotors  bigger then the one used here
No one mentioned about it in the news and why only this stuff is mentioned and spread all around the world
My cousin form usa told me about this b4 it came in news papers


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: sultan alam on May 24, 2014, 08:20:13 AM
Great ,,Time's coming to shoot pizza to get pizzaa.haha


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: roshan.dixit on May 24, 2014, 04:40:57 PM
This is not allowed!  That is not allowed!!  Only Corruption allowed in India!!  I am sick of this!  I think in the near future Kite flying will also be not allowed as someone tried to send a message through his kite!!  LOL


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: vijai on May 24, 2014, 08:26:06 PM
I see a reason behind why the police investigates. They should have at least informed the police prior so that they can be aware and cautious of the matter. What will happen if the quad lost control in mid flight for some reason as it was only testing? And think of public. Few go frenzy on the sight and few really get frightened. On the whole, It would have been a smooth process if they took permission which would have taken 30 mins max..
Although these are just my perception... :P


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: K K Iyer on May 24, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Never knew that delivering pizzas is the high priority objective for this country.
Perhaps we should inform the new government.
Or better still, forget about pizzas. Whether delivered by motorbike, limosine or quad.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: v2 eagle on May 24, 2014, 10:02:30 PM
Roshan, Chill down.

When we are concerned about the beautiful hobby up in the air, COPs are concerned about the millions of people living in the ground.
Its just that you should be careful and take all the precaution and measures and prepares for the worst cause scenario.

Imagine a 10KG flying stuff coming right into your face at 50KM per hour with sharp blades running at 5000RPM with a LIPO that is unstable than most explosives unnoticed at the time when you are hearing your favorite music with headphones.

Would you still be supporting this when something like this happens to your close ones, or you would just say,"He should have been careful"??? ??? ??? ???

Ashok.P


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: wingmanbunty on May 24, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
Pizza delivery is a kind of stunt it is not commercially practical or if this kind of stunt is done
At least  Mumbai Police DGCA and others
Authority should be informed, so that proper safety arrangement can be made.
 I read in a news paper a quad got crashed
Performing this stunt , I also hear In a marriage function a quad was gone out of control and crashed.

Public safety is the first priority



Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: roshan.dixit on May 25, 2014, 09:30:37 AM
I dont oppose the good will of COPS and I am really worried about public safely!! BUT the fact that irritates me is there are no clear rules or laws!!


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: girishsarwal on May 26, 2014, 09:34:53 AM
Joker in Batman says "When everyone knows, no on panics"  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: SphereHobbies on May 26, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
Hello All

Lets have meaningful outcome of this discussion.

Where is the definition of word "AIR SPACE" for Indian aerial operation?

If picture taken from 15th floor is not aerial, why picture taken by a quad is aerial?

If anyone from our members can find link to this law.

Why any operation through air can be made objectionable? Air Safety !!?

These questions are not to challenge anyone. Lets join hands to work united towards solution.

Regards,

Sphere Hobbies
Ahmedabad
India
+91-99251-20630


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: enggricha on May 26, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-eatery-delivers-pizza-using-a-drone/articleshow/35440489.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-eatery-delivers-pizza-using-a-drone/articleshow/35440489.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral)

I read somewhere that this is illegal at this point in time in India...true?


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: v2 eagle on May 27, 2014, 01:37:37 AM
@Spherehobbies,
A picture taken by some person standing in 15th floor cannot pose much of danger to civilians but a quad with lost signal can do.
Filming a private organisation in the city outskirts is okay, but in the center of the city?
People venturing into commercial practice of this hobby ignore rules of flying and take all the risk just for their benefits.

Ashok.P


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: SphereHobbies on May 27, 2014, 08:56:09 AM
Ashok

Point noted. But where is it written in any Indian Law to raise this objection?
A picture taken by some person standing in 15th floor cannot pose much of danger to civilians but a quad with lost signal can do.

Your above argument is based on the assumption. Why a quad/flying machine should crash if operators are trained (as drivers and pilots are) Bear in mind that poor implementation or non existence of any law cannot justify the activity being dangerous.

Absence of proper guideline or law in our society itself is a proof that we know very little. India is still governed by Aircraft Act 1934 and Aircraft Rule 1937!!!

Central idea of our example of building was to understand the word "AIR SPACE".

Regards,

Sphere Hobbies
Ahmedabad
India
+91-99251-20630



Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on May 27, 2014, 09:37:31 AM
Even best of flying machine are bound to failure. You cannot be so sure that a flying machine operated by a trained operator is safe.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: ashimda on May 27, 2014, 09:40:03 AM
Perhaps we are giving too much importance to this publicity stunt. If the Piza company in question does get permission to deliver Via Multirotor,(unlikely) they could have the following slogan " We will deliver in 15 mins or kill someone trying"


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: tantragna on June 19, 2014, 12:56:52 AM
I liked the novel idea, and also heard amazon too showing interests in implementing it to make its deliveries. But the issue of compliance of safety is the key. In europe to fly a quad/multicopter you need a helicopter license. That explains their standards and understanding.

Just because, it is gyro-and all sophisticated electronics and software, it cannot assure nothing will go wrong. Imagining it hitting a cable-tv cable while flight over people/children underneath them and crashing unto them, which is 'very much can happen' situation.

Aeromodelling or rather aerospace is still a large corporate thing in India, as the lesser mortals are mostly ignorant of the compliance matters. This forum will definitely help us in getting more knowledge, confidence and being organised to handle situations that even are rare to happen. Even for the sake of the hobby, please take safety as the first step to be a civilised and rightly informed air-citizen.

A couple of decades [or more] of my outings in various sport/hobby/career-verticals, I have seen all grades of people, being compliant and the other lot of non-compliance. The compliant and disciplined lot are whole sweet to hang out with, than the idiots who cannot for-see its importance and just try to get around things to get done.

In short, there is no shortcut to success, is the mantra.. 'Chalta hai' is not happening anymore!


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on June 19, 2014, 11:24:08 AM
Lol now they say it was a publicity stunt and they didnot deliver the pizza
The quad was flown at diffrent places and video editing made it look like it went 1.5 km away

And it didnt have a pizza it was empty box......
It never went above 10feet
Officals couldnt pinpoint any provisions under which the pizza outlet could be booked so guys happy flying
And if mumbaimirror did read my comment IT IS NOT A DRONE


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on June 20, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/the-video-of-a-drone-delivering-a-pizza-in-mumbai-was-a-hoax-police-say-reports/480244-79.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/the-video-of-a-drone-delivering-a-pizza-in-mumbai-was-a-hoax-police-say-reports/480244-79.html)

Jai Ho!!!


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: VTOLkarthik on June 20, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
LOL :P publicity stunt! saved us hobbyists!


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on September 04, 2014, 08:17:01 AM
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Police-ban-Drones-from-city-skies/articleshow/41661016.cms (http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Police-ban-Drones-from-city-skies/articleshow/41661016.cms)

This is something that i did not wanted to see/hear/read but this has happened why? cos every newbie who gets a quad starts Ariel photography :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: devangflyer on September 04, 2014, 08:27:36 AM
Does this include Pune ?


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on September 04, 2014, 08:29:45 AM
So far Mumbai but if its one city it would not take time to be propagate to other near by cities as well.


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: devangflyer on September 04, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
But drones are unmanned aerial vehicles that fly without human input and a quadcopter needs a man's input . So why have they banned both ?


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: satyagupta on September 04, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
Cos police thinks that these are drones. You are welcome to have a discussion with them


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: devangflyer on September 04, 2014, 08:44:46 AM
I am not gutsy enough :) . For good  ;D


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on September 04, 2014, 10:47:33 AM
How can they ban it if they dont even know the difference between drones and Multirotors
I am lucky to be able fly it in a secluded ground
And i even flew above a dozen of senior officers in a event
None of them stopped me ???
(Weird) a couple of them even took pictures of it

It would be great if they develop a licensed system where people who have proper license would be allowed to fly in public places or would have to practice only in secluded places
Would be good for public safety as well as good for the hobby community (freedom to fly legally)


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: devangflyer on September 04, 2014, 10:53:15 AM
The commissioner said that they would do something like that .


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: aditya on September 04, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
But drones are unmanned aerial vehicles that fly without human input and a quadcopter needs a man's input . So why have they banned both ?
Drones also requires Human input . USA Drones are controlled by man's / women's input from control station located far from Battlefield .


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: chintal on September 04, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
That pizza publicity stunt just killed it


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: aditya on September 04, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
That pizza publicity stunt just killed it
+1


Title: Re: Quadcopters delivering pizas.
Post by: devangflyer on September 04, 2014, 11:14:13 AM
True .