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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2009, 10:09:27 PM »
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try using a voltage transformer which has amp adjustment and keep increasing the amps until you get the right amount of heat. increase amps slowly Smiley

Ok.. just to make it clear,... You cannot increase just the amps without decreasing the resistance of the wire (or) increasing the voltage. (I=V/R)... A wise man named Ohm discovered that long time ago!... Wink. So, I would say you better increase the voltage until you get the right amt of heat. And make sure your transformer output current is rated high enough (~5A) for this kind of job..
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2009, 10:42:45 PM »
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i used a 12v 2amp transformer and no rectifier(diodes and capacitor) and the bought "e" string for guitar (which is the least dia string- so higher resistance hence heating takes place here). i had a 1.5" dia pvc pipe, fixed a 0.5 feet plastic rulers perpendicular to the ends of the pipe and fixed it firmly using tapes. then tied the string between these rulers as ends. result- i now cut thermocole as a cake Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2009, 09:18:10 AM »
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For a good variable heat foam cutter, here is a best link for scratch building...

http://www.instructables.com/id/Hot-wire-foam-cutter/

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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 10:07:14 AM »
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i used a 12v 2amp transformer and no rectifier(diodes and capacitor) and the bought "e" string for guitar (which is the least dia string- so higher resistance hence heating takes place here). i had a 1.5" dia pvc pipe, fixed a 0.5 feet plastic rulers perpendicular to the ends of the pipe and fixed it firmly using tapes. then tied the string between these rulers as ends. result- i now cut thermocole as a cake Smiley

Can you post some pictures of the cutter, don't the wires also cut into the plastic rulers?
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2009, 10:53:41 AM »
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good question... the simple trick is to solder the wire with the string between the rulers(inside) and not outside. so the heating occurs between the soldered points. dont confuse with the 2 wires which i soldered, they are just parallel. i made this arrangement to allow more current to pass (as i dont have a bigger dia wire).

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2009, 01:16:43 PM »
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update,I have finished building the wing n covered it with cello tape plus added small pieces of fiberglass that i had at the wing center near leading n trailing edges to give it a better strength, i decided to use a readily available fuse that i built for a 1.5 HLG glider long time back.Change of plans the power setup will be a pull type with slight difference.

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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2009, 01:36:51 PM »
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guys, from now on the build will get slower sorry i want to finish the long pending rc project that i have taken up .

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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2009, 09:49:30 AM »
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okay guys stay tuned i will be finishing the model today

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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2009, 11:59:53 AM »
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update, i have decided not to use balsa fuse instead a EPP fuse  Grin motor mount is fixed,servo press fit n receiver guard, antenna wire cover all done. Hopefully i will be finishing the entire model today and will be left with only the ESC part.

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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2009, 12:47:38 PM »
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update, added rubber band mount


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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2009, 04:18:23 PM »
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update, i have decided not to use balsa fuse instead a EPP fuse  Grin motor mount is fixed,servo press fit n receiver guard, antenna wire cover all done. Hopefully i will be finishing the entire model today and will be left with only the ESC part.

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Hi, please confirm.......this is an actual EPP fuse of some plane or is some EPP packaging of DVD Player or something  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2009, 06:05:14 PM »
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It looks like EPS  packaging of something to me. Clever use  Clap Clap Clap

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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2009, 08:45:26 PM »
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its EPP from packaging of a blue ray player  Grin

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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2009, 09:26:18 PM »
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Although you have changed your design, but if you were to use the balsa fuse you were better putting a block of wood to anchor the motor post as the pull from motor coupled with the leverage due to height would sure at some point of time yank the post off the base.
Also just wanted to warn you that you should consider appropriate up thrust on the motor at that height from the fuse, if the motor was mounted zero zero you would find that the craft will pitch down severely when you open up the throttle.   
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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2009, 07:38:59 AM »
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Although you have changed your design, but if you were to use the balsa fuse you were better putting a block of wood to anchor the motor post as the pull from motor coupled with the leverage due to height would sure at some point of time yank the post off the base.
Also just wanted to warn you that you should consider appropriate up thrust on the motor at that height from the fuse, if the motor was mounted zero zero you would find that the craft will pitch down severely when you open up the throttle.   

Could you pls explain the up/down thrust that should be used when mounting these motors. A bit of down thrust is what is recommended when mounting the motor on the nose, here we seem to need up thrust instead.
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2009, 09:27:52 AM »
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its EPP from packaging of a blue ray player  Grin

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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2009, 11:34:25 AM »
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Although you have changed your design, but if you were to use the balsa fuse you were better putting a block of wood to anchor the motor post as the pull from motor coupled with the leverage due to height would sure at some point of time yank the post off the base.
Also just wanted to warn you that you should consider appropriate up thrust on the motor at that height from the fuse, if the motor was mounted zero zero you would find that the craft will pitch down severely when you open up the throttle.

yes capt. i had a similar issue with my air boat,can you explain the science behind it please and this whole process of changing design was to prevent damage to the prop/motor shaft but i have given up due to CG problems so i have changed it to ordinary front motor mount with prop saver n rest is in gods hand  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2009, 11:36:45 AM »
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Hey Sahil...

Come on hurry up man, I wish you should fly first than I could, with my Scratchy 'Indian Trainer'!

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2009, 11:38:58 AM »
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well i had this lying around in my room, all of a sudden i see a potential pod n rest you know  Smiley

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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2009, 11:43:19 AM »
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its raining like hell in hyderabad since last night n still raining........hoping tomorrow will be sunny,clear sky,clam no wind.....so that i can maiden the model.

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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2009, 10:52:40 AM »
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update, had some problems with the ESC but got it working need to fine tune the LVC values and capt. can you please explain the motor angle thing  Huh?



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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2009, 11:20:15 AM »
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The "motor angle thing"  Cheesy 

When you look from the back of the plane to the front, point the motor 2 or 3 degrees down AND to the right.
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2009, 12:05:48 PM »
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 Grin anwar i was referring to this post by capt.

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Although you have changed your design, but if you were to use the balsa fuse you were better putting a block of wood to anchor the motor post as the pull from motor coupled with the leverage due to height would sure at some point of time yank the post off the base.
Also just wanted to warn you that you should consider appropriate up thrust on the motor at that height from the fuse, if the motor was mounted zero zero you would find that the craft will pitch down severely when you open up the throttle.   

yeah the motor angle thing  Grin Wink
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« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2009, 09:45:07 AM »
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Sahil and Capt

I don't know whether it is right of me to interfere at this stage... Capt has to have his say about what he meant.

Sahil, I believe now you are not going with the post mounted motor concept right ? If you are not, then the motor thrust should be directed a few (2 to 3) degrees  down and to the starboard side (i.e. to your right as looking from the cockpit forward). This is to counter the reaction torque of the motor trying to pitch the plane to the port side ( opposite of starboard) and up

I could add the following in explanation of what I think Capt meant:

With the post mounted motor, the thrust line is above the wing. Since the wing is what is holding the whole plane, its cg point tries to act as a fulcrum and the moment (thrust x moment arm) tends to pitch the nose down. To negate this tendency, perhaps, Capt said that the thrust line should be modified to reduce the moment arm, by giving a certain amount of upthrust. (moment arm is the perpendicular distance between the line of force and the fulcrum point)

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« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2009, 09:50:56 AM »
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OK Guys,
How does one get to measure the 2 or 3 degree shift while mounting the motor? Its all good when its on a drawing board, but in applying the principle, what is one supposed to do?

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