iyer sir..

Wonderful suggestion Iyer Sir 

i am totally agree with you laxmansuthar. tomorrow ill surely post letter to DGCA...

@iyer sir....we totally agreed your words.
ACI and AMA has already written to them with supporting document.

Laxman

iyer sir ;thumbsup;

letter posted to DGCA..

In the part [mention city] you are supposed to put in the name of your city!

oppss forgot.. let me correct first..
thanx @SK1701

What I personally feel the we must have a separate licence for the people who want to operate it for commercial video & photography purpose, because these are the people who widely fly it in public places as per the clients requirement.

"ICAO Panel Will Recommend First UAV Standards in 2018"

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/aerospace/2015-01-06/icao-panel-will-recommend-first-uav-standards-2018

So if we are waiting for this does that mean no flying till 2018 or beyond ??!

Many countries including FAA USA has started giving case to case basis exemptions and permissions for capable and worthy private applicants for commercial purposes. Things should fall in place in due course of time. Till such time really hoping ignorant, over exuberant and ill prepared few among us in the hobby community do  not invite more negative publicity on the subject by thier adventurous antics.

It starts:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/permission-needed-to-fly-drone-in-public/article6764693.ece

DGCA permission needed which can not be given since no rules are framed

We can all write up to the newspaper editors to bring up this discussion and the grievances and problems(import,flying spaces,etc) faced by ppl like us in the hobby! What do you ppl think?

 Just for interest sake I thought you may like to know where we stand in Australia on the "Multicopter" front. Our government has spoken about a licencing system for copter users. A 100% free licence to fly for hobbyists. This basically lets them know who is licensed to fly in any particular area. So they can keep tabs on us.

They then intend to licence commercial pilots who wish to use their copters for monetary gain. A very strict and awkward licence to gain. Numerous examinations and I've been told by one applicant they intend it to be almost as hard to get as a full sized light plane licence. No doubt full records would have to be kept and this no doubt would be available to the taxation department.

Unfortunately it's only being spoken about and as yet absolutely nothing has been done to get the ball rolling. The endless and costly Government department studies have to be finalised before it's put to parliament. Getting anything done in a hurry is almost impossible, unless it favors the country's coffers of course. I recall applying for a community radio licence and was told that band plan studies were underway and I would have to wait 7 years. It actually took 11 before the licence was granted. Perhaps we may see action by 2020 if we're lucky.

In the meantime we are treading very carefully, but media being the beast they are are jumping on anything and everything which paints copters in a bad light. After all, since when does good news sell papers? :-)

On a personal level I sincerely hope you can do everything possible to put your hobby in the good books with both your public and government. Stunt flying in the wrong areas and cowboy pilots should be ridiculed and avoided at all costs. Stop referring to copters as Drones. Ask the average person on the street what a drone is and they'll tell you it's something used in Iran or Iraq to spy and kill people. Above all TALK to as many people as you can and show them exactly what it is a copter consists of. Getting public approval for your hobby will help getting Government approval.

For example I spoke to a friend of mine about my quads and he showed interest. He's our local Fire Chief and he's just announced the fire brigade will be using a quad with FPV equipment to look at bush fires from the air as well as building fires. We couldn't get better publicity for our hobby and simply because I spoke to the right person. He will now talk to other fire chiefs and the word will spread. Sadly every step forward will be negated by idiots believing copters are dead easy to fly and can't hurt anyone. One bad story about copters will be more welcomed by the media than a good story, so keep feeding them good stories.

Don't see this fight as something you "must do" better to see it as something you "want to do" Just don't try to hide what you're doing. Form a club or a social group and if you find someone is painting a bad picture of copter flyers then as a group approach that person and try to get him or her involved in your group. Then it's easy to teach him the right way to do it. Other than that, have fun. When people see others having fun, they want to be part of it. The more people flying, the better for convincing Governments to allow it. Good luck.

if one wants to define role and coverage of media today this "What's up" joke sums it all up

""A King enrolled his donkey in a race
& won.
Local paper read:
'KING's ASS WON'
The king was so upset with this kind
of publicity that he gave the donkey
to the queen.
The local paper then read:
"QUEEN HAS THE BEST ASS IN
TOWN"
The king fainted....
Queen sold the donkey to a farmer
for 10$.
Next day paper read: "QUEEN SELLS
HER ASS FOR $10"
The queen fainted...
The next day king ordered the queen
to buy back the donkey and leave it
in jungle.
The Next Headlines:
"QUEEN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS
FREE & WILD"
The king died... !!
That's Media"

This is whats happening in US of A between FAA and unmanned Community and law enforcing authority

I am sure our DGCA is also just toeing the same line blindly

Reader while reading are just required to replace for "FAA" read "DGCA"

http://www.suasnews.com/2015/01/33796/the-enforcer/

to quote

"The Enforcer
by Patrick Egan • 9 January 2015
ENFORCER
Have we plateaued at a new level of absurdity (maybe 10-3), with the police now acting as the enforcement arm for the FAA? Some suggest that this amounts to a huge an unfunded mandate and is apparently another misstep in a folly conga line.

The authorization of deadly force in Attachment A. What has this country and government come to? Who would have ever thought that the citizenry would let themselves be subjugated to this type of a unilateral autocracy?

People that I talk to, manufacturers and end-users tell they are afraid to speak up for fear of retaliation from the FAA. Is this a representative government or is that over and I didn’t get the memo? Folks follow the special interest model as the norm. The FAA works for you, and we should be incensed at the level of incompetence that is the UAS airspace integration effort.

There is a reasonable expectation that hundreds of thousands of these are already flying in the NAS, and the mantra from the regulator is that safety is key, and we want to get the rule right. Okay, but is the NAS safer with no regulation? Or, are we hiding behind we said “no” and that makes it safe enough? Many believe that to be a weak argument and doe’s little to bolster the notion that the safety of the NAS is the primary goal. The assumptions with that and that the modelers are safer then the commercial end-user have to be reexamined.

Every other group working the effort is telling me that I should be encouraged as things are going to get better. However, I’ve been hearing that someone is on the case for years, but efforts like this once let out into the wild are hard to recapture.

You as a stakeholder have to understand the pushback from these efforts. Again, for the record, I will state my motives; I have none besides seeing as many people as possible being able to employ unmanned technology. The DoD vendor model and people are moving into the large companies and those that are supposedly “watchdogs” are lapdogs working solely for their company or benefactor motives. The rising stars are inept and okay with onerous regulation as they believe that it will benefit their individual businesses and stockholders or whomever they can find to pay the tab.

What you are hearing and seeing is an unorganized monster wasting tons of money and more importantly, your valuable time.

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts."

This is where Patrick recorded Jim saying the FAA were sending out this guidance to law enforcement agencies.

The whole issue raised is a cover up to compensate in favour of large organisations for the commercialisation aspects, and this is going to be one long dirty battle, for sure!

I contacted a senior, and a friend who is in the media scene, to ask him that what should be our next step regarding the issue, gave this link to see.
lets see what he comes up with ...

I am new to this Hobby and joined a course for learning to Build my own RC flight , please let me know is flying a RC flight legal and not a problem in India ?. Some of the discussion shows that government is going to come up with rules, until then do we need to wait?

According to my assumption we will win ! If you ask how ? Let me tell you Rc  is a billion dollar business , companies like hobbyking , DJI , A.R spend tons of money and from them govts of China , USA and other notable countries receive a lot of money in the form of taxes so I think the usa (faa) is going to give it a green signal with certain rules and limitations ! And as know DGCA copies FAA so we will get similar rules which will definitely take some time , as we know how fast is Indian govt workes !! So set back and relax think positive and avoid flying in cities ! And other places with people near by !

roshan.dixit 

The govt of India though aware of the fact that tobacco causes cancer even then they just make companies who make tobacco product print only a warning sign   at the back of their devilish products , Why don't they completely BAN
TOBACCO!! PRODUCTS which clam millions of lives each year !!
Why they want to ban this peaceful hobby which we LOVE ...
I guarantee if most of the people  join in this hobby ... this hobby can do magic as it can reduce unwanted malicious and venomous addictions  as this hobby will  keep them preoccupied in creative and fun activities  !! what do you say guys??

The have already ban smoking in public places
They wont ban production of drones, they would ban flying in public places

I completely agree, flying near people is a hazard in too many ways. Lets see what will happen 

Sahil

Any one got Non Objection Certificate from the police   If yes pls guide me..My quad is sitting idle for the past 1 month