RC India

OK got my first set of RC from FLYRC (Praveen)
http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/ (http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/)

Trainer EP  x 1
Rainbow EP  x 1
YAK 54 (60) x 1

The shipping is ultra fast and price is unbeatable (probably lowest anywhere).
The models are too good and color combo is excellent.
Excellent communication and status updation by Praveen Angad and team by email/calls and sms.
Best of all is the price/quality.

Packing can be improved. Bubble wraps would really help after I witnessed how TNT guys handle
boxes when unloading.
One suggestion Praveen, use 'fragile' pics on the boxes.

BottomLine: Dont wait just go ahead. The price/quality is kewl.

OK less talk and more pics..
All pics clicked from my camcorder so bear with the quality.
Also the plastic is not removed so it may look 2 shades dull.

And it will be ages for me start flying these.. so dont expect any build logs soon.

Trainer EP

Rainbow EP

YAK 54
(This one is real BIG)

Pravin is serious in his business it seems!
Drone! You are gonna be ne haapy flier this season..
looking forward on your first flights on them!!

 :thumbsup:  Hey thanks a ton for your valuable comment and suggestion

Congrats Drone! Diwali shopping spree it seems!! You camera is out of focus. A clearer picture would have left me sleepless.. YAK and Rainbow are looking great.

@praveen: I do suggest to take serious note of Drone's point. Please use bubble wrap - it might cost MAX Rs 30 per shipment if you buy a roll of the warp and save much of misery. Using news paper to wrap items would hardly add much security.

Also putting a Fragile/Handle with care printout (photocopy ) would cost you additional Rs 1
http://www.technicalscribe.net/resources/fragile_keep_dry_grayscale.gif
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fragile-sign-vector--image10783606

As a buyer, some one would be very annoyed if the package comes damage. The fight for responsibility would be bitter for both the parties.

Great that you are bringing up variety. Do provide other options. Hope to buy from you soon.

All the best.

Thanks controlflyer and Ujjwal.

DRone,

The prices are really very good and really value for money I think. thinking for purchase from them. Thanks for the link of the site. perhaps after a few days, the site ad would be available to our forum,s free ad place. Sai uncle got a competitor. But his main earning may be from shipping, as flat shipping cost. Does a Brushless motor costs 650/- have shipping cost of 750 ? I dont know, but written on the site. Will be dialing him.

Thanks

Hi Buddy !!!

The motor does not say Rs.750 as shipping.  :headscratch: The motor listing clearly says Rs.650 + Shipping (it does not mean Rs.750 shipping)

The flat shipping that you see is for PLANES. (it is clearly mentioned there)
"SHIPPING FLAT 750/- per plane anywhere in India. (Shipped via TNT/GATI courier service)"

Shipping for motor would be much less. :)

Hope this clarifies  :thumbsup:

Charging Rs.750 for shipping a model via GATI is entirely justified. There are others who charge much more for shipping.

Thanks Ujjwaana for your advice ..i would like to put a note that i cannot put  fragile stickers on any of the box cause the courier company does not accept fragile packages
2--the packing material  used is to keep up with the cost i am offering ,and i think the packing is cushioned well  as per Abhijeet he saw the tnt guys unloading it in a very rough way and still no impact on the inside ,,,
i will still try and improvise on the packing trying to keep the price steady , thankyou guys for your support and valuable suggestion

will you plan to keep g-3 lipos,hxt servo below 10 grams,good quality b/l motors and other stuff? we are very eager to see on your cite.

Any link to your site Praveen?

http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/

Hey Drone, Congrats! Keep us posted on the build and looking forward to these beauties flying soon at the new place we saw.  I'd let go off flying my helis to capture a video of them flying and post them here!!

  
          http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/

Giant scale lovers kindly check the updates
Made in USA by wing maker , unicraft....unbeatable quality and price  :thumbsup:

rcd today my parcel from flyrc,everything reached in perfect condition, the packing was superb also the quality of the phoenix stuff

see the pics

more pics

 WOW you guys i think i should stock some more giant scales i underestimated the buying power estra330 and sukhoi 26 Both Giants   sold out :thumbsup: Happy Flying

F-16 Fighting Falcon Turbine Jet    added

                            http://www.flying--rc.blogspot.com/

are you going to stock build material also? i have been looking for some 10mm & 8mm CF tubes for quite some time now  ??? 

iam not planning to  stock aircraft  building materials

Praveen...You are a champ man......... {:)}

you are doing the bestest thing for R/C .................. :salute:

Sandeep Mathur

Could you pls. stock servos (3 - 10 gms), servo extensions, batteries. May be an entire range of electronics. More BL motors too.

Thanks sandeep,,,whats with your pilatus when is the maiden is it this weekend let me know ,,,

Yes Praveen , all parts are assembled and kept, waiting for my motor from HK. it will take another 10-12 days more. i will be in Delhi and will come back on 13th. i hope till that time i will get my stuffs from HK.
modifications on Pilatus wings, landing gears finished.

What abt you GWS product.....?? when are they coming...reminder about E-Starter  :)
Sandeep

Sure thing ,,will keep you updated on that

Praveen, Why is PAN card number required ?

pan no or any sort of government issued id  required by tnt  ,,,its the  state rule

Hello Praveen,
My first post regarding what you are doing and it is really appreciated, specailly the attractive prices.
However while browsing through your site I read this about the giant spitfire
"Made in USA by wings maker ,this kit is far more superior in quality and construction compared to any model brand available locally"
http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/
From what I know/it appears, the spit is no where near to ESM/YT Spit in quality, scale fiedlity etc, and yes the ESM/YT is availble locally in India.  
Then your advert says manufactured in USA. IMHO this is made in China.  
http://www.thewingsmaker.com/products/airplanes/manuals/GA026.pdf
Another aspect on which I may be wrong is that the Wings Maker spit appears to be completely made by World Models it so closely resembles the WM ones.

P.S
Looks like I am not wrong. Wings Maker is indeed WM. My little research confirm this, given the product line, manuals supplied etc.

HI guys onething...I just want to ask...Why some of the parts are wrapped in newspaper???? ???

I really appreciate your concern regarding your attention to detail.Firstly ESM/YT also manufacture their models in China. You compare the Wingsmaker kit to the one made by the world models, let me tell you, you have to see both the kits and only then will you be able to tell the difference. The kit made by wingsmaker is indeed much better than the one made by the World Models with respect to quality, scale, etc. I agree it is my mistake to have mentioned that the "kit is made in USA" and I assure you that it will be rectified asap. Now a days most of the products are being made in China but there is something known as quality control, which differs from manufacturer to manufacturer, as per their requirements. I see you have done a lot of research on the models listed on my website, are you planning to buy one soon ??

PS--Kindly post reply as to where the ESM kit is available in India and at what price ..Please provide  a link,, thank you

The news paper is to cushion the delicate model parts contained in the box, can you think of another better reason  ???

Hi,

Could you please guide where these ESM/YT models are available in India. I was infact looking out for one.
Please provide the link / address of the store / LHS.

Thanks.

I think the seller is the most highly rated local LHS seller :giggle: 

 I think i can read between lines here ...Never mind since you said (and yes the ESM/YT is availble locally in India) provide the link who   and where i think we all are interested to know

Bangalore based giant scale seller  ?

http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_64&products_id=487
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_64&products_id=486
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_64&products_id=484

I think its time to get a dedicated site.

No,
Dedication and Update is mandatory which has been well maintained. Only thing is indexing with Topics like Big Models, Parts, Electronics etc. can be reoriented.

Again, you can add comments or requests with the topics so that it added instantly, which has to register in other site before commenting rather than entering with google ID.

Moreover, if the person who update the is the same dealing person, it would be better. Again, The topology he is most familiar is the best suited for customer.

Thanks.

Thank you for your input,changes are underway......please visit the site for further details.......Categories are now listed for ease of navigation...

It is RCDHAMAKA who else great collection of scale planes. www.rcdhamaka.com

The guys at RCDhamaka are just great and helpful and Sanjeev will really very helpful

They have mention it on this forum also just did a search http://www.rcindia.org/gas-glow-nitro-planes/esm-planes-now-in-india/

Boxes are more than 6 ft in Height.

Cant help with research as that's what I mostly do for a living. Only thing in my line it is called investigating.
And it is so easy these days with IT tools available at ones disposal.

Firstly, your remarks w.r.t. QC for different markets is correct, but that does  not in any way affect scale!
Could you also clarify the "read in between the lines" part? The only reason why I did not mention the name directly is because all in this hobby who have been in this for a while know that RCD stocks ESM stuff.
Thirdly with my intention to buy, yes a PM was  sent here the same time my earlier post yesterday for which I am yet to receive a reply. Would appreciate a reply to that, cause if the price is at the same level of your current kits (i.e. as reasonable) I would just pick it up from you.
I am also perplexed by another strange coincidence, which I found on comparing Flyrc and another oldtimer seller’s site here in India. I am afraid if I mention that here people would start reading in between lines

Hi Praveen, thanks for starting such a nice store.. This will definitely help to promote RC in India.. Best of luck with your venture.. Will you be stocking GWS products? How about the Slow Stick?

This is an open forum so dont talk in 007 Language(by ur comments above it seems u r a detective of some kind). We(newcomers like me) would all love to know about that oldtimer u mentioned so we can follow whats goin on here. Thx

Yea.. Whats the point of an open forum if you ain't open?? You post the facts and we'll decide if its a coincidence or not ;D

GWS & Multiplex in the pipeline cant confirm a date though 

Crazy pilot, since this is an  "open forum" does not mean I need advice from some one how to phrase my posts. And the same openess appllies to all. Read the preceeding posts carefuly and you would understand what I mean.
Medcineman, do a bit of search about all the sellers in India and what I mean would be revealed.

And to stress it again, what Praveen is doing is great, getting stuff for people at reasonable rate is highly commendable and bound to bring in competition

Yes, being a open forum, all thing must be not only white but also transperent.

 If you have any doubt about your comments, flyingboxcar, I can assure you that Anwar Sahab has the power to modify the comments written by you and surely be modified withen 24 hours (Surely much less than that.)  :banghead: Excuse me if it is known to you and over-explained by me.

You better PM him also just after your post to checking your post.

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But you can change/modify your comments/post just upto a certain period and later you can not change even your posting. Even if you think your post shoul include a photo/movie later taken or an important site link, you cannot add after a certain period. This is kept in control panel of Admin.  :thumbsup:
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I dont know, there must be some administrative reason :bow: behind this and I think, this option may be modified in this forum being transparent.  :headscratch:

Of course, this is possibly unknown to Anwar Sahab as he have the admin power and options are always open to him (Even without admin panel.). :giggle:

Thanks

I am not sure where this is going :)  The Captain (or anyone else) has the right to divulge any amount of information, as he choses. He may chose to divulge more information when he has more facts, OR he may not !  That is up to him.  Everyone is free to seek/compare/investigate independently and arrive at own conclusions.

The reason for not being able to edit posts after 24 hours is to ensure that we preserve history accurately as much as possible.

Points noted/exchanged and corrections made ...lets just end it here thanks all for your support and guidance

My first reply on this here.
Ever since FlyRC started, i had also noted a gross resemblance between their products and with PayLessFlyMore . I had been trying to look on their blog to see if they had some information on it, but nothing anywhere. I drew my own conclusions, and left it like that. However i feel that though FlyRC is doing a great job making available the ARFs, they are doing a little too much of publicity on the forum. I mean several threads all the time in the recent posts all about the same thing isnt too good to see. Now that we all know the deals, and the blog site, lets not push things so much.

I took the liberty of sharing my thoughts just because this is an open forum, and felt i could share my 2 cents here.
_Gaurav

Not sure about the "too much publicity on the forum" part any more.  Initially, yes.  Multiple "For Sale" threads.  But once the blog was established, it is just this thread, and couple of "Deal" threads which makes sense.   The rest of the threads that mention Fly RC are from people who bought stuff, and will grow into build threads (hopefully).

Overall, as long as the customers ("us"!) benefit, we will stand behind any and all LHSes.

About the resemblence, I was wondering whatever happened to Bombay RC ? They do not even have a domain name now !

Agree with gauravag, looks like paylessflymore clearance stock being sold.

Any idea about FLYRC address.

Kalyan da!
Thanks for the education   :bow:

How can you even say that ??? There are a lot of products on the website that are not even listed with payless....

I really don't understand, why people are trying to become detectives ?? If you are getting excellent quality product at such cheap rates shipped to your doorstep, what is your problem. Why are some people unhappy with this wonderful service???? I have personally received my lancair 360 mk2 and it is of excellent quality. Some time back people were complaining about paper being added to the packages for protection, Up till now, i don't think any one has received a damaged product, the technique seems to be working just fine. Others have been complaining about excessive publicity, I really don't think any extra publicity has been done, making people aware of the good offers is not wrong, is it??? more over after threads of people receiving their models from FLYRC started surfacing, I have noticed the same thing being done  by the rcdhamaka people, the new thread of the construction of the McDonald Douglas DC3 is a proof of this.If you see, the member who has posted the build thread has registered an account on this forum yesterday and is just a few posts old. Getting good quality products at a fair price is the right of every individual, but I personally think that some people are trying to create problems for this up coming LHS. In my opinion this is wrong. The proof of the quality of service being provided by flyrc are the various satisfied customers. We all understand where this is going, but as long as we continue to get products at fair prices, we don't care who and where they are coming from! I would suggest people doing research on FLYRC to start focusing their energy on aeromodelling and order from FLYRC and enjoy the Hobby. Thank you FLYRC for bringing such wonderful products at such affordable rates for hobbyists like ME!

Competition is good... end of story ;)

Part of the reason for people to become wary is that someone come out of the blue with higher end stuff, yet without what seems to be a proper setup.  The second part is that prices are very good, and "very sweet deals does raise eyebrows".  I guess I just made a compliment with that statement :)  Note that EVERYONE (including people who felt this is "too good to be true" in some sense) has appreciated what Fly RC is doing. I am sure Praveen himself can understand the reservations of anyone who has seen how this hobby has come along for many years in this country.

Is there any problem in buying old stuff from clearence sale? Does the ARF quality deterioriate oner time in storage? Genine question here - not acting smart or anything. Will be helpful if someone can shead light on this. Thanks.

Nothing really, except may be "full disclosure" expected out of a store (not from an individual).

I didnt understand :(

what's wrong if he is selling paylessflymore items,from the buyers point of view i will always go for for the good prices(of course the quality tooo ),any ways praveen is doing a great job keep it up :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I am not sure I can explain it any better.  I am sure Praveen understands :)

And for the record, RC India will support any venture that offers better choice and prices to RC enthusiasts in India :thumbsup:  I hope the banner ads for FlyRC are noticed already ;)

We are all doing a good job of keeping this thread alive... free publicity :giggle:

I hope LHSes pay back in kind... support our sweepstakes ;)

Yeah hope they do give away small things like servos and esc's. I would like many mini sweepstake like events - keeps the air buzzing :)

And as far as flyrc is concerned - i have booked a hobbyking 6ch tx and rx. Praveen was very helpful and answewed all my silly questions.  Personally i am satisfied with their service.  :thumbsup:

 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Thankyou guys for your support iam the talk of this forum wowee iam loving it ,,,pls keep it up

While I see where you are coming from, it would have been simpler and sweeter to just say "I categorically confirm that I have no relationship to other stores or their old stock" :) 

Not alienating potential buyers is good for business, even though these people raised eyebrows they also showed appreciation in general towards what you are doing ;)

I hope you take my words in the right spirit, not as unsolicited advise !

i dont have to prove anything to anyone  ,,,my buyers who have received my models say it all let anyone come ffw and say he has got old damaged models ,,,,,my clients post say it all kindly check the forum for reviews and built of models supplied by me ,,,also iam getting gws /esm/multiplex etc to India ...let them happily investigate  and comment that iam selling old stock from other lhs selling similar brand... ... models iam selling is not monopolized to specific lhs..

Right said praveen sir u dont have to prove anything to anyone. ur products say it all but I hope this useless debate will end if u simply say u have no relation with paylessflymore or any other lhs. even if u were somehow connected to some lhs then everyone should be happy that they are getting what they want at lower price. Thx

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: keep up the good work praveen making all **LHS** run for there money  :giggle: :giggle: is cause of this repel

Glad to see you have edited this post : http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/flyrc/msg36741/#msg36741 (Reply #65) to take out the references to some members. These small things will only help you in the longer run.

If i was working with payless wouldn't they have lowered their prices too ...its not that payless has closed down they are very much in business...and who is a fool to give me their stock and also make me sell them in half the price they are selling  ,,,isnt it a logic for everyone to think .
The funniest part is the guys who have dedicated their valuable time  to investigate hasn't even bought a single model from me i dont know how they concluded it to be old stock, whereas all my costumers have given me 5star rating .nevertheless we all should appreciate the soon to be private investigators  telekinetic expertise   :bow: :bow:

There you are Subodh

telekinetic nice  >:D ne  :giggle: :giggle:

Praveen,

nobody said you are not sending models/or giving damaged models, has anybody said that why are you feeling guilty. Everybody appreciates more LHS's, we the customers always feel more the merrier as this leads competition, leading to more choice, better prices, etc.,
But you neither deny any relationship nor accept this why it is intriguing,

I have asked you for some models the other day but you sent me a pm with totally different models which led me to checking the other site.

Can you let me know if SR22 can you bring it for me this is ESM kit looking forward to it. Also looking for the Edge Unlimited - Code FCA-AEG261P and prices please.

I agree with what anwar has said.

Also as you know and said that there are alot who need pesticide in this forum, can you please name the others apart from the three that you already named.

As a comparison you are not selling it at half their price.
 
http://www.paylessflymore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=G2/AG/0009

http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/2010/10/cap-232-giant-scale.html

 i haven't named anyone in particular can you pont out   please  ,,, ...the shipping for this giant model is more than Rs2500 which iam offering free

you clearly had named and Anwar is aware of it and i have also read it and you edited your message. So you decide and tell if you have named or not once in for all. I have nothing against you it just that you are also posting and keep editing you post.

Regarding the model it was in stock till saturday, like the saying goes to hide a truth you will have to say a hundred lies.

Regarding offering shipping free is very good happy that you will continue to offer it through out.

You mentioned you are not getting the models but one out of them is something you say you are already importing is it that you have stop importing that brand and also can you please let me know if you can get the planes i had asked on the other topic to which you pmed me or you have stopped that also.

Anyway thats for you to decide, good luck. By the way if anybody has to contact you can you please share your registered office/house address.

You just said it fnd,,you were saying iam selling  stock cleared by payless now you said that they had stock of specific models till this Saturday and now they are out of stock and i have them ,,,,Hmmm so you are saying iam buying fresh stock from payless giving you guys a very heavy discounts + keep in mind my profits+logistics and still manage to give such good rates .So you mean to say iam doing Charity not business and i should change my blog from flyrc to charitable hobby trust. I dunno which way to analyze :headscratch: your comment   :headscratch: :headscratch:

Guys... it is time we concentrate on what is in the true/best interest of us all.  Praveen has said all that needs to be said about any affiliations.  

We look forward to a proper website for Fly RC along with continued sourcing of good models at great prices.  

The picture below will help you to know that both are same manufacturer.

People ask for your address nothing wrong when you are doing legitimate business to disclose your address, why should i call you can't you just mention it.

it will help you and get peoples confidence.

Isnt that what iam doing and have done reference to my (« Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 11:06:44 AM Point noted/exchanged thank you all for your valuable suggestion)

I have got them the best rates and best price possible ,,I have got 3 anonymous email saying i should increase the rates and work in par with all which would help me in the long run...if you say i will copy paste the email and also my reply ,,,cant i understand whats happing ..all of a sudden investigators are born and trying their best to put me down , ,thats y i said i can read between lines here ...but thanks to all you guys who supported  me via ph calls and pm"s

Please go ahead do that it will be an eye opener for all..........looking forward to know who are they.

Gala no 23 plot no 21 Nadhal,near Khalapur on Old Mumbai-Pune Highway nearer to HPCL Petrol Pump & Preeti Palace Hotel -raigad

Please we all eager to know.................. (:|~  As most of the senior guys will know the e-mail if its any LHS.

i mentioned anonymous... ..and my reply was addressed to Anwar if he says so i will do it rite away

Its an open forum please do it......i don't think Anwar will have any problems

nop i stick to what i said

Leave it guys...

I am sure the people who asked you to increase prices are your well wishers, and running an LHS in our country is not an easy task. The added (reasonable!) margin will help you sustain the store for longer, and these people want to see you stay long term as an LHS.

Regarding the "investigators", please do not view them as such literally.  These are people who have been in the hobby for a long time (at least majority of them), and have seen all that many LHSes (not all) have dished out to themselves and others in the past, along with how things tend to be get done in our country.  If they raised their eyebrows, it is just human.  Just your simple assurance (which you have provided already) is good enough, along with continued customer service and good prices. They did not seek confrontation, nor did they run silent/underground propaganda.  They just raised a simple observation publicly based on THEIR experience and market conditions.  Please let it slide, and let us move on.  I can assure you based on my interaction with them that most of them are strong supporters of LHSes.

Would love to know Anwar, and those guys are trying to make a cartel. We should uncover them.

Then you best decide.

email already ffw d to anwar

No point in posting those here. Nothing serious, from what I can see.

Like I said earlier... I hope this is a a new dawn for RC in our country.

forward it to me also. i will trace the sender. Thx

:headscratch: anwar, i know you need to be, an you are, very neutral; but this assumption cannot be more wrong.

Guys,
As Anwar said, please do not mis-interpret things. We are all in favour of customers getting the best deals. Praveen has done a great job in way of making quality airplanes available at a low price. My only reason for posting my observations were that since I have been into this hobby for a long time, and frequently ( if not daily visit ) the LHS websites, so I have a fair idea of the kind of stocks everyone has. As i said your stocks had a close resemblance with what PLFM had. Again it is of no big consequence to know of how you procured your stuff, and as long as you are giving a good deal, all is well.
I am not trying to investigate or uncover things. Nor is my intention to do that. Praveen will disclose what he feels appropriate.
Regarding increasing prices, no idea who sent. But again who-ever did might have a long-term vision and plan.
So, lets all enjoy these great deals while they last !
-Gaurav

Well the way I look at this situation is that Praveen registered himself on the forum on the 6th of July this year. His first three posts were general participation in a NIB Yellow Stick. Then he suddenly switched gears and went into selling in a big way. No announcements in the forum of his intent at the start - just an explosion of good quality models at down to earth prices.

What is 'bugging' folks would be the lack of transparency. I mean, while few veterans have vouched for his credentials, but little is known about who Praveen is, how he entered this business and how he plans to grow and help this hobby in particular.

A lot of people have had some negative experiences when dealing with a 'website'. Rcforall and RCDhamaka are few online sites that get talked about in this forum a lot - mostly in positive terms. That is because not only they are into selling RC stuff, but they themselves actively participate in this forum and help spread 'gyan'.

Honestly, while I like the prices and hope to buy from him soon, I am not sure if the i-am-good-i-know-it-and-i-don't-need-you-skeptics is a good way to start an LHS.

Pankaj

Gaurav is just as wrong ;)  Think of them as opinions... based on different experiences ! All izz well !

People who analyze the challenges of running an LHS will understand where both Gaurav and me are coming from !

BTW, this dead horse is still being beaten up !  Praveen will love the added publicity, and RC India members will get to see more great prices at Fly RC today too {:)}

Pls confirm that the payment for hk6ch is recieved.
Thanks.

I think Praveen should send me a free gift for making my original post which led to so much being posted on this thread. Don't you all think I deserve to be compensated for the publicity my post caused for this LHS?  :giggle:

  

Seriously dude i will consider that ,,,My Blackberry hasn't stopped beeping since morning,The first email was for the turbine jet combo confirmed and sold out ,,Thanks ,,sitting back and analyzing its really given me a big bang publicity that also for the silliest of topics lol
Eventually no one cares where and what i do they just want good product at good price ,,

Like i say whoever wants to do business with me are welcome ,,And those who have doubts can choose to stay away..
I think everyone here are quite mature enough to make their own decisions,Iam in no mood to prove and share my credentials  and plans abt expanding my business..I think its entirely my wish and i like to work my way                  

                                                                                                                          
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                                                     http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/

lets close this guys....  :)
keep up the good work Pravin. :thumbsup:

hey Praveen!!!!

i think this is a great publicity!!!!!

when ever anyone starts something new/different, there will always be +ve & -ve comments from all over, after all this is open forum!!!

but the ways you have changed the market with ur pricing and attitude is really appreciable!!! i havnt done much comparison but for few i can say, its really cheap and for a guy like me its really going to help a lot!!!

all i can say is that THANKS and wishing you all the best for ur support for RC community in India!!!!

Ashish

When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going

Wow!!! this sounds like Reality-War in down town Mumbai!! And I bet the mail would have come from a nearby city.

Anwar, I believe you taking side of the those 'Crooked' LHS is actually a Pun. We all have been talking that these 3-4 fold prices at LHS is purely because of economy of scale, and as volumes goes up, prices WOULD come down.
Now long time back I wrote that going by the leech attitude of some LHS, even in such days they won't bring down the prices.

Pvn receiving such 'threatening' mails is one of such proof. I mean this is a direct
offense against we R/C enthusiast and we should collectively boycott buying from them, lest Pvn reveals their names (One can get address from the source IP in the e-mail)

Keep up the good work Pvn. Your prices is your USP. What have they suggested would bring you among them and surely deprive you from such an amazing volume of sale.

I once asked a Sardarji, selling the best Chole-Kulche of Lajpat Nagar(Delhi) at a price  less than other shops around, on why is he selling at a lower price? He said "I want to make xx profit. Whether I make it by selling 100 plates or selling 150 plates doesn't matters. Even on a bad day, I would be selling 50 plates, when others would be able to sell none!!!"

Be like that true spirited Sardarji! Setup an Online Shop and keep away from Forum-Crap. People would anyway talk about your price and variety and you would never need to advertise. I would call that a Healthy 'Monopoly'

Thankfully the owner of HobbyCity is not living in India. Else such people would have given 'Supari' for his head!!


Cheers!!

I am not sure where you got that idea from... that I am taking sides with crooked LHSes.  The mail that was forwarded to me was not talking about 3x or 4x prices, and it was not threatening either. It was talking about Paypal fees, taxes etc, which are genuine concerns.   In any case, I have made my stand on this clear.

If Praveen is making decent profits at these rates, and feels he can keep doing this long term, that's end of the "pricing" debate !

I am involved in multiple businesses in India (outside of the software/consulting world) that involve keeping stock of physical items and trying to sell them, and let us just say that I have a pretty clear perspective of what it involves. Everything I have said so far and my stand about the mails to increase prices is based on that insight, and partly from seeing LHSes in operation up close and personal (I was asked multiple times to become a partner in more than one LHS, with all operational details) :) 

Sorry Anwar, I put your reference just jokingly and mean no offense to you. No other forum in India (not just RC) could have such a wonderful , open and selfless moderator/oner ever, who has absolute-zero financial intent with the proceeding of the forum.

I have learnt some other implication on people here in BLR, which I cannot divulge here, which really sadens me.

Any indication of people putting pressure or even suggestion to increase the price is outrageously undemocratic and monopolistic. I learnt that PVN is a successful business in other field and he would have arrived at the pricing after calculating all the overheads.

Such suggestion of increasing the price clearly means
'We would not lower the prices, you better increase it so that all of us remain happy'

If this was true for other commodities and durables in India, a 21" CTV would have cost Rs 80,000 today (it was Rs 18,000 in 1990's) and only people driving in Car would have had Cellphones, was there no competition to lower prices due to volume.

When people are offering discount, 'Diwali Dhamaka', such a covert suggestion to increase price is simply a sinister act of 'Black Marketing'

Just my 2C... as people in India are one of the most price sensitive.

What was the price sardarji selling at and other sellers also? Thx

Think it was way back in 2003. Paaji was selling at Rs 5 when others were selling at Rs 8, does it really matter?  Even though I see a similar ratio here (much more in in Giant scale), PVN's range of choice is itself compelling for him to be in the business.

I just dot' believe in the dogmatic philosophy that even sellers need to make money for living. So don't buy from some one selling cheaper to support the over priced ones?  Almost all LHS here have R/C only as a side business. Except maybe Rotor etc. So why this hypocrisy ?

<Edit for Crazy Pilot, as I don't want to hijack the thread>
The Sardarji used to Sell from a Maruti Omni, somewhere near Chung-wa Restro in Lajpat Nagar Market. Should be selling at 12-15 bucks now. Miss my Delhi days...

I matters to me. Money saved is money earned so i would like to find that sardarji soon and have some kulche myself. Thx

One more info you guys rckatty karthik is one of the rc dhamaka brothers  its confirmed by guys in Bangalore and also look at the pattern of his old posts/reply in other thread most of them is a canvas for rcdhamaka look at his post from beginning ,canvasing products with details for rcd

i went to rcd today saw this and that etc etc etc its amazing etc etc

I think that been clarified earlier also, that i am a good friend of Kartik and share a similar name. Nothing new on that front. I like the guys will always canvass for them, i have never asked guys to buy from them either by pms or any other method. No member till now has got any mail from me.

I have not given any negative comments to anybody.

I would like to know what are you doing "Tarak Makwana" that you are always after RCD in some post or other looks like you don't like them for some personal reason.

i think you are mistaken its not me who has problem with them its mostly everyone your own state guys has reveled it above,
Also iam correcting everyone again he is karthik one of the brothers not his fnd who shares common name,confirmed by guys in Bangalore
Now everything is clear to us on whats happing

karthik calling karthik  ;D :giggle: :giggle:

When rckatty asked pvn2000 to source Bristol Beaufighter &Albatros D.V for him i clearly understood the revenge attitude towards pvn2000 both the models are extremely rare and custom built ...Rckatty why dint your so called close  five star rated lhs friend source it for you ,you had mentioned in one of your post that rc dhamaka is the only lhs who stocks all the models dint they help you in sourcing it in return for your free canvasing
now we understand what pvn200 meant  reading between lines

Hmmm... a whole new perspective !

Gentlemen... I would request that we stop further discussion along these lines. There is enough information here for everyone to form their on opinions about who is who and what each individual's intentions and manners are.  Let us leave it at that.

Any competition, let it play out in the market ! As for forums, let people use them to know about great deals from all stores !

And I have to say that it was nice of the Captain to clearly explain why this whole line of discussion was started, in his post : http://www.rcindia.org/deals-and-special-offers/rcdhamaka-diwali-dhamaka/msg36948/#msg36948 . 

Respected Praveen Sir,

First Thank you for adding a menu bar in right with subject.
Secondly, you have earned respect and quite attention from the senior members who invested a handsome amount of hard earned money and you have opened the lowest cost challenge with good service.

I can remember that when I bought APC 500VA UPS for Rs. 4300/- while, market price was 4500/- everywhere, I was happy, But in Next COMPASS, (3 months later), it's new version costs Rs.3200/- and in 6 months, cost gone down to Rs.2400/- and I shocked. YES, SHOCKED.

Therefore, I am asking you to add a few words clearly about, what is inclusive and what is exclusive but you need to complete ("You Get", "You must Required" & "Optional Add Ins").

I again request you to include low cost infrared controlled micro plane for sell which can be added with any shipment for gifting and attracting newcomers to this hobby.

And a few combo offers, for a complete setup, of course matched ones, like "Electric Complete (Upto xxx), "Electric complete Excluding Radio", Drive+Servo (Upto xxx), + lots more.

You may reduce the header image size a little bit with animated GIFs with your special offers.

However, one request, Please make fast loading as possible as of now. Your simple site is really a simple example in the complex world. Make modification not disturbing your business.

Thanks

For your information both the planes are Alfa Model planes and willing to buy them and they are not rare or custom built. You are a LHS also is that right.
Like Anwar has said will not post anymore on this topic everyone can form their opinions.

Still waiting for an answer

All those guys doing reaserch & investigations you all can  set up detective agencies(on lighter side) ;-)))). Seriously you guys briging out details which a person like me didn't even think off. Good knowledge sharing guys.
But all said & done how dose all this matter till the time entire R/C fraternity is getting good quality for better price, may it be sold by X, Y or Z.

Oh Crap!  ;D I was out for 2 days and didnt have time to follow this...

I went thu the entire tread and PHEW!!! that was something!

Like in a speech they say lastly "......"  
Here is my.. lastly lets not  :violent: or :argue: or :discuss: again.

Praveen is enjoying himself, rock on man! great prices and stock

Here is the equational rhyme - penned it for all parties on this thread

Price good for us, Planes sold for him,
Traffic high on forum, Stocks down in store room.
whether its from here or
whether is from there,
praveen's willing to send it, asap by air.

if you are a dealer or if you are the seller
today you're the buyer , next day you're a flyer
So lets wrap it nice and tight
forget who started this fight.
ones with the models, start your maiden flight.

Anwar's been so kind, lets not think he's blind
thanks for this freedom, its frees us from our boredom
so make some juice with lime so i can end this rhyme hahaha!


My 2cent for the lighter side to this race!!

cheers  :salute: ;D

Good one! I mean the limerick (strictly speaking not one but since your first two para had five lines I choose to classify it as such)   

nice rhyme joe..!!

very nice @ flyjoe.

Thanks guys! at the end of the day we need to see the lighter side, to able to wake up lighter the next day.  ;)

Friends...

I have been notified of at least one case in relation to this thread, where someone sent a PM to one of the LHSes, the content of which can be summarized as "name calling" (not profanity, yet derogatory) :(

First and foremost, let us not lose the element of respect that we have for one another, even while one party thinks he is right and the other is wrong.

Secondly, this forum is free and open, which comes with the direct consequence that any discussion/debate etc should be done in public.  Of course there is no point in asking "will you come the field on Sunday" or "I am offering Rs.2000 for the lipo you have on sale" etc in public. But beyond that, let us discuss issues in public, and not on PMs. And be prepared to be questioned about what you say.  PM is not a medium to settle scores.

Wow.. well said Anwar Gi..   :bow:

I received my Piper Cub from Praveen!
Loved it, very high quality product! cheers!

check out here:

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/phoenix-piper-cub-ep-documentation/

I hope with all this panic over parcel bombs and the alert passed onto India we don't have deliveries from Praveen affected. Any advise on it..?

I would be more concerned on over seas parcels .. likes those from HobbyCity and Towers/Helipross etc. Hope things settle down fast.
Practically they cannot restrict such electronics items from Air parcels. Even most of OEM manufacturers like Dell/HP/Xerox depend on such individual parcel for faster turn about of spares. They could not hold customers for 1-2 month cycle fright from cargo ships takes.

So cool down. Dust would soon settle like what happened with the Greenland Volcanic Ash.

Keeping my fingers crossed

Please confirm that payment has been recieved.

Abt the receipt of payment i had mentioned earlier email at flyrc@aircraftmail.com payment related and booking related q&a done only through email not via pm and post...So for everyone in general  booking/shipping/ etc is handled by  different department & not me,  so henceforth for any payment/booking/shipping related queries pls dont pm/sms/postreply just email at flyrc@aircraftmail.com it helps us to be
error free

                                                                                                                                                Thankyou and enjoy the festivities

Yes it is mentioned on the site itself. Sorry didnt notice. I have e-mailed. Thanks praveen.

 RC cars/trucks/buggies by  CEN RACING USA & electric choppers from Walkera  updated  in stock           

                                        http://flying--rc.blogspot.com/

Now you really need a proper online store ;)

I will setup some more banners to highlight these.

Thanks Anwar ,,,iam waiting for the stock briefing/inputs ,ones all ready then flyrc will go super live 

Hi Praveen, any update on GWS products? I've finally convinced my parents for a Slow Stick :)

Hey medicineman1987 the reason FLYRC has delayed GWS products is because GWS is upgrading the material of their models to better quality very shortly ..hence its advisable to hang on till they do it

Oh I didn't know that.. Thank you so much for the info.. Will wait then :thumbsup: Any idea when the products will be available?

Mr. Verma's "Cessna 182 plane from Fly RC" has been split out into its own thread :

http://www.rcindia.org/gas-glow-nitro-planes/50-size-cessna-182-from-flyrc/

hello praveen , you are doing great job , congrats

can you stock the foam kits like epo or epp kits , if so you will be the hottest Reseller .. thank you

Thanks vulture ,,input  noted  :thumbsup:

i missed this thread, at places in the recent past, after reading certain undercurrents, i was kinda WTF ??? , now slowly the fog is lifting, anyways, all 's well that ends well and thankfully, at the end of it prices crashed, good things became available at affordable price range, for me personally, both LHS, for that matter all LHS, are good friends

Looks like the 6ch radios have all been sold out :thumbsup:  Can't see them on FlyRC or RCDhamaka.

It was my biggest wish when I started this site to see radios becoming very affordable, as it seems to be the single biggest item that prevents people with limited means (like high-school students) from taking up this hobby.

radios are selling like hot cakes,indicative of further business in the models, thats a good sign, compulsory aeromodeling trg for aspiring pilots is likely to see the light of day, and that a good news which calls for celebrations

all i like to tell  is praveen is a good seller.. i made dealings with him two times..........

Praveen can you also stock some Foam Pusher Kits, they are great trainers..