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Title: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 22, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
Monsoons have arrived in Bengal, so flying anything RC will have to wait for Winter. The Monsoons are a start for my other passion... Angling.

To all the wildlife lovers out there, please let me clarify, that I strictly practice "Catch and Release". The lakes where I go to fish are used like Fisheries. The owners release hundreds of Carp Fry, and periodically harvest the fish using nets. But not all the Carp get caught and some grow to huge proportions. These are the ones we try to catch, and if successful release as well.

By now Anwar Sir and others are probably thinking "another twat posting in the wrong section"  but wait, here comes the boat bit.
The bait we use is like a ball of food, which weighs approximately 100g. We need to get this bait ball sometimes 50 meters from the bank. I can cast out to that distance but the bait breaks up due to the force exerted.
I was thinking, could an RC boat  carry my bait to the desired location? I have limited RC experience and Zero with boats. Any help and suggestions would be appreciated.        


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: topalle on June 22, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
Why not?
You can use a boat for such a purpose...
But you need to be careful about any plants that grow on the surface of water... they may entangle the propeller...
an airboat or a hovercraft may well do  the needed job.. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 22, 2014, 11:12:27 AM
There are no plants on the surface so that will not be a problem. What type of boat would I require?


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: topalle on June 22, 2014, 11:13:53 AM
Is there a lot of disturbance in the water? or is it a calm water body?


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: topalle on June 22, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
You can make a bait boat. Google for it...


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 22, 2014, 11:53:11 AM
It is a relatively calm water body. Will checkout the bait boat on Google.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: topalle on June 26, 2014, 06:43:50 PM
What happened? I suggest a 600-750 mm catamaran boat made of plywood or fibreglass hull ...


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 26, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Well I looked into the bait boat, and I looked at a few builds on the Forum. I have come to conclusion that making my own is just beyond me.
I have decided if someone sells one then I will buy and if not, I may use a quad to drop the bait where I need it.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: madaquif on June 26, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
ashimda...

air boat is really easy to make....

airboat was my first n last boat build ....I m a beginner too...I had built my boat in 2 days....:D

check my airboat....it was capable of moving atleast 400 gms of load on water...

http://www.rcindia.org/boats/my-first-boat-air-boat/ (http://www.rcindia.org/boats/my-first-boat-air-boat/)


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: saikat on June 26, 2014, 10:06:57 PM
i too like angling - generally "golden masheer" on the "subhansiri"  and
"jia bhoroli" rivers. 


for your purpose something like a FT007 boat would be ideal - it is available in many avatars
and comes as a whole package - not too expensive.

it will perhaps not be able to carry 100 gms - but you can consider giving it a try


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: lastRites on June 26, 2014, 10:23:13 PM
Hey ashimda.. I can help you make one.. It is very easy. You may also experiment a bit on an older boat of mine, to see if an airboat fits your purpose at all..


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 26, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Thank you everyone for the interest. I'm not sure about the Air boat, mainly because of the rudder. The bait will be tethered to a line which will be dragged from behind the boat. The rudder could get tangled and I wont be able to release. A boat with the prop and rudder under the water would not be affected by the trailing line.
The FT007 is just to small for the job. I will have to make a dumping platform to drop the bait, and the FT007 type boats just wont cut it.
I will probably have to make my own in the end but for now seriously contemplating using a quad for the purpose.
@Saikat you are lucky my friend, No such rivers in Kolkata, unless you count the Hooghly but no Masheer to speak of.
We are confined to our Lakes and our Katla. ;D


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: madaquif on June 26, 2014, 11:10:47 PM
ashimda....what will be average weight of the bait you are planning to use..?


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 26, 2014, 11:13:38 PM
It depends on many factors, mainly 100g-150g would be used but sometimes a bait ball or Ladoo as we call it can be 200g in weight.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: madaquif on June 26, 2014, 11:17:54 PM
I think airboat with a good motor should do the job...

you can make small box and control with a 9gm servo
like some guys use to drop flowers from planes/helis

 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 26, 2014, 11:22:23 PM
I need some thing like this...



Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: madaquif on June 26, 2014, 11:28:02 PM
What if the bait reliever is on the frount of the boat.???


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: lastRites on June 26, 2014, 11:43:58 PM
Airboats have a distinct advantage over normal boats. No chance of the line getting tangled with the prop. All boats have a rudder at the back :P


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: topalle on June 27, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
THe shape you need for the hull is relatively simple to acheive with a thermocol plug that can be used for fibreglassing....
It is just patience that is needed to sand it into shape...
If fibreglass is available, go for it... :thumbsup:


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 27, 2014, 06:17:12 PM
Checking out some plans and build logs on the Forum. Have decided that a tug boat design would be best for my purpose.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: Nithinraj Kotian on June 27, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
Good choice ashimda sir  :hatsoff:


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: kunal.chak on June 30, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
Dear Ashim Da,

I am not sure replying to you in this thread is the correct place or not. So if not please redirect me to the correct one.
I do have a similar requiremnet and I would really be interested to have something that can help if the price is affordable.

However I myself can throw roughly upto 120-130 feet with a so called "Jota" and 50% is the succes rate that the laddooo will not break.

So in case you finally get a device that could help us doing it, please let me know.

BR
KC


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on June 30, 2014, 12:02:02 PM
Sure no problem. Throwing a ladoo far out is not a problem. But throwing to the same spot repeatedly, increases our chances. Will start a build thread soon.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: kunal.chak on June 30, 2014, 12:14:01 PM
absolutely right dada...please let me know once you finalize on the device...


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: lastRites on July 03, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
How about a nice big slingshot? Those can be made to have pretty accurate aim and has the added advantage of not scaring the fish away(A boat is bound to do that ??? ).


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on July 03, 2014, 03:57:21 PM
The forces created by the slingshot will break up the ladoo. Large Carp are not scared that easy by sounds or movement on the surface. They stay in the depths as they are bottom feeders.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: lastRites on July 03, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
That it may :P Have you decided on a plan yet, or are you scratchbuilding?


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on July 03, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
Have decided to scratchbuild, just trying to find a suitable plan.


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 04, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=42588.0 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=42588.0)


Title: Re: One hobby to help another.
Post by: ashimda on July 04, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
I didn't see any plans on that thread.