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Title: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 15, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
I want to test a brushless motor with a 12 lead acid battery (200ah inverter battery)... In the future I will use it with 11.1v lipo... Is it safe to do so with the lead acid? Any precautions I should take? Also I am using a micro-controller to control the esc. What kind of PWM pulses should I give to the ESC? Are the pulses the same as that we give to a servo?


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 15, 2010, 09:32:47 PM
Oh the ESC's I have are the 18A ones bought from rcforallin...


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: ujjwaana on May 16, 2010, 12:40:34 AM
Yes, ESC work on exactly the same PWM signals used to control ESCs.. 12v should not upset BL motors which can handle 3S. BTW what are you up to ? static test or you really gonna put something like a Lead Acid battery on something moving/flying/floating ?


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: vinay on May 16, 2010, 07:03:43 AM
Not sure about the PWM stuff, but you can even use a small 7.4 AH 12 V battery also for testing (like I did). With 200 AH you can run multiple motors  ;)


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: hangingtough on May 16, 2010, 09:25:06 AM
yeah , the servo pulse can be given to ESC for controlling the speed.


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 16, 2010, 12:57:22 PM
thx guys i'm testing motors for a quadcopter.... btw what is the range of pwm signals that a receiver outputs? tell me in servo angle terms... 


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 16, 2010, 05:17:41 PM
Okay! I tested the motors with a 7AH UPS battery. I cant get them to work. I dont know how to setup the ESC with the microcontroller. Anyone please tell me how to setup the ESC with a receiver for the first time? What exactly do you do?


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: anwar on May 16, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/brushed-or-brushless-motor-for-quadrotor/msg13928/#msg13928

That answers the pulse you need for 0 to 100% throttle. 

There is confusion about the receiver part.  If you are using the micro-controller to control the ESC (throttle range), where does the receiver come into the picture ?

Normally (ie, without any micro-controller), the ESC feeds power to the receiver via the black (ground) and red (roughly + 5v or +6v), and the receiver sends signals to the ESC for throttle control (and the signal details are in the thread mentioned above).


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 16, 2010, 08:09:07 PM
Sorry about the ambiguity.. I wanted to know exactly what kind of signal The receceiver sends the ESC..... I;ll go through that link you gave..


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: anwar on May 16, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
This post form the same thread has a picture of the waveform you need to send.

http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/brushed-or-brushless-motor-for-quadrotor/msg13916/#msg13916


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Gaurav on May 17, 2010, 08:39:19 AM
I changed the PWM timings a bit and it works perfectly now... Initially I feared the quadcopter might be underpowered.. now I think it might take me with it... The power is mindblowing!!! Will put up a video soon...


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: Prerak on July 17, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
@gaurav - anything happening with the quad ?? we are still waiting for the video !!!


Title: Re: Powering brushless motor with 12v lead acid....
Post by: gurudattapanda on April 24, 2012, 08:36:22 PM
@Gaurav: Please do not try with 200AH Lead Acid battery to 18 Amp ESC!! See the battery specification about the burst current/maximum current delivers. Use a greater value ESC than the Battery Max Current supply, its a regular practice!!