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RC Baazar => Wanted => Topic started by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 07:41:50 AM

Title: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 07:41:50 AM
I'm looking for a 12 V, 10~12 A Brushed Motor with high RPM (1000 KV or so) for my Neptune 23" boat.

Any leads much appreciated.

I cannot use a Brushless because of cooling issues

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: arun.sreelakam on May 31, 2013, 07:45:11 AM
Sanjay sir the brushed motors inside the auto lock actuators of car are very powerfull..
They are 12v and more than 1000 rpm..


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Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 07:47:46 AM
Thanks Arun! Your answer came in almost before I had finished typing :D

I think I have one of these, but doubt it would be enough????
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: lastRites on May 31, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
No they will not be :P They are very slow and inefficient anyways..
Look for these: http://www.vegarobokit.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_49&product_id=169
The picture is not of the actual motor. These are VERY powerful.
I may have a few laying around somewhere. I will try and get a picture on here by tonight. But cooling is a must for these if you want them to last. Alternatively you may run them at lower voltage.
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 06:25:38 PM
Already checked with them: 35000 is not in stock, 18,000 RPM is. Any idea of current draw/suitable ESC?
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 06:26:45 PM
How to cool it? A coil is very inefficient, and it's not feasible to put a cooling case on it ???
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 07:21:08 PM
OK: the 18000 RPM motor is 12 V and 1 amp = 12 W max. Too little!
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 08:10:11 PM
OK, I've found this company in Bangalore

Model   Operating Voltage   Nominal Voltage   No Load Speed (r/min)   No Load Current   Rated Torque (g.cm)   Output Power   Rated Speed   Rated Current   Stall Torque   Stall Current
SITO-7812   12-120VDC   12V   4500   2.0A   2000   135W   3500   10A   12000g.cm   40A

and

SITO-140ZYT/12   12VDC   220.8W   18.4A   1340   1.34   150W   67.9%

Sito Motor Co. Limited
Mr. Karthik Seshagiri
585 First Stage, Indiranagar, Old Syndicate Bank Road
Bengaluru - 560 001, Karnataka , India

Mobile   :    +(91)-9900093121



Anyone heard of them or dealt with them?
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 31, 2013, 08:51:03 PM
I am getting this from Robokits, will try it out

   
25000RPM DC Motor 12V
25000RPM no load speed at 12V No Load Current - 1A, Stall Current - 10A 0.36Kgcm torque
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: lastRites on May 31, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
Yes they are quite good! Very good power and efficiency. I have loads of them ;D But they are 18k rpm usually. The specs are for the 18k ones. They draw 11.1A at stall at 12.4V. I have put them through hell and still work. There are two kinds. One is from "Mabuchi" and the other from "Jhonson". I prefer the later.
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: lastRites on May 31, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
I just found two brand new ones in my stash. Those 35k monster ones. They need a 30A brushed ESC. Although I have not tested them under full load(i.e at stall). One of these with a 2s may be enough for you. 3s would be ballistic :P
Willing to part with one. Do you have anything for trade?
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: lastRites on May 31, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
The 18k with a gearbox and the 35K.
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 06:43:17 AM
I only have a 20 A brushed ESC, and only 3S LiPos, What would you like to trade? I have lots  ;D
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: lastRites on June 01, 2013, 07:18:19 AM
I am afraid that a 20A speed controller just won't do for that motor. It takes an average of 18A at load. Ask VC, as he may have used this motor.
There are other cheap alternative sources of brushed motors. You can get very good quality motors from:
Photocopy machines, Big printers, pumps used in car windshield cleaners.
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 07:23:12 AM
Maybe I'll just stick with the Robokit motor for now 8-)
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: santhosh on June 01, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
i have some 400 size motors , comes with the multiplex twinstar, is it ok for you?
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
yes, yes yes! Please....more details
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: santhosh on June 01, 2013, 07:53:24 AM
i dont know more details like rpm etc.... pls check on the web , i  u need  i can send it to you  all brand new
, many people are using this on a 3s set up  .
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 08:08:49 AM
Aren't these 6V motors?
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 08:16:36 AM
I found this

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55234&d=1202663206 (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55234&d=1202663206)
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 01, 2013, 08:17:51 AM
Same one


(http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55234&d=1202663206)
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: spy_king on June 19, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
I have a few GWS EM400's (http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-PKMOT-1009.html) and  Mabuchi RS-380PH  (http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-bin/catalog/e_catalog.cgi?CAT_ID=rs_380ph) if you looking at something bigger.

you could test them out and see if they suit your needs!
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 19, 2013, 08:44:05 PM
Thanks spy, but I did get a 500 speed motor
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: spy_king on June 19, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: sanjayrai55 on June 19, 2013, 08:44:05 PM
Thanks spy, but I did get a 500 speed motor

I just went through your build thread! hats off! :)
Title: Re: Wanted - Brushed Motor
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 19, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Thank you :D